Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 08:25:45 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:19:27 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 06:16:52 PM

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Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 04:18:56 PM
Cells are not babies.... There is no soul.

  First, the question of a soul is a question for philosophy, not biology or medicine.

Bollox.

So tell me. What exactly does biology have to say about the soul?

Do you mean neuroscience? LOL

If you like, sure.

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Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 06:09:21 PM

Quote from: migo on May 09, 2022, 05:39:09 PM
Abortion is a pretty simple issue.
if you actually have a heart and don't support killing babies.

Riiiight... Of course, there is one slight problem that logic. Cells don't have a consciousness. They will. But at the early stages, you are just destroying some cells. Big fucking deal. Kill away I say.

How do you know...how do you know if cells do or do not...it hasnt been proven definitively...show me a peer reviewed journal (and shall I point out how badly "peer reviewed journals" have been trolled in the last few years...( https://www.timesofisrael.com/duped-academic-journal-publishes-rewrite-of-mein-kampf-as-feminist-manifesto/ )) that definitively says "Cells CANT have Consciousness"...Ill wait


Ive saw ads saying asbestos caused no problems...Ive seen military films saying that Agent Orange was as safe as water...Ive saw documents saying jews werent the same race as humans, Ive saw the same type of documents saying blacks werent human...Ive seen medical journals say that trannys needed to be locked up because they were mentally insane...Science is never settled...

How also do we prove consciousness...A.I. seem to have consciousness and every time one is created it immediately turns racist and hates blacks...

You seem to have roughly the same grasp of science as Rob Necronomicon.

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:38:15 PM
You seem to have roughly the same grasp of science as Rob Necronomicon.

LOL Here's Pat a bible-thumping moron asking me about science? Putz...

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 08:42:10 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:38:15 PM
You seem to have roughly the same grasp of science as Rob Necronomicon.

LOL Here's Pat a bible-thumping moron asking me about science? Putz...

Clearly, your brain has become so soft it's leaking out of your ears like soft serve ice cream in a distracted toddler's hand on the hottest day of the year. But even if we assume (as I suppose we must) that your intelligence is so low it's barely capable of keeping your autonomic system running, how in the world did you ever get the idea I was a Bible thumper?

You made a completely outrageous claim that's almost definitionally outside the realm of anything that could conceivably be considered science, while claiming anyone who disagreed with you was a Science Denier (caps yours). I simply demanded you provide at least a rationale for your claim that the soul is within the province of the biological sciences.

Your complete failure to even present an argument in rebuttal is proof you have no idea what you're talking about and nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
Your complete failure to even present an argument in rebuttal is proof you have no idea what you're talking about and nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

What? I want a bedwetter bible licker like you to take me seriously, or any holy shaman? LOOOL

But let's all hear fat pat's argument for the existence of a soul and his beloved zod. I think we will be waiting for a loooong time. Meanwhile back in the real-world all fat pat has to do is some googling on neuroscience and the existence of the soul (and make sure it's peer reviewed and not some shit god lovers in disguise).

Do your own fucking research you lazy twit.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:06:31 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
Your complete failure to even present an argument in rebuttal is proof you have no idea what you're talking about and nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

What? I want a bedwetter bible licker like you to take me seriously, or any holy shaman? LOOOL

But let's all hear fat pat's argument for the existence of a soul and his beloved zod. I think we will be waiting for a loooong time. Meanwhile back in the real-world all fat pat has to do is some googling on neuroscience and the existence of the soul (and make sure it's peer reviewed and not some shit god lovers in disguise).

Do your own fucking research you lazy twit.

You are such a fucking idiot it's unbelievable. You're the one who claimed biology supports the existence of the soul, not me. Just because you have no defense for your claim doesn't mean you can ignore all your own posts and pretend you were the one making my points.

Despite what insane shit you believe, you insane anti-science religious fanatic wacko, the soul is the province of philosophy. Not the biological sciences, or any other field of science.

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 09:14:46 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:06:31 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
Your complete failure to even present an argument in rebuttal is proof you have no idea what you're talking about and nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

What? I want a bedwetter bible licker like you to take me seriously, or any holy shaman? LOOOL

But let's all hear fat pat's argument for the existence of a soul and his beloved zod. I think we will be waiting for a loooong time. Meanwhile back in the real-world all fat pat has to do is some googling on neuroscience and the existence of the soul (and make sure it's peer reviewed and not some shit god lovers in disguise).

Do your own fucking research you lazy twit.

You are such a fucking idiot it's unbelievable. You're the one who claimed biology supports the existence of the soul, not me. Just because you have no defense for your claim doesn't mean you can ignore all your own posts and pretend you were the one making my points.

Despite what insane shit you believe, you insane anti-science religious fanatic wacko, the soul is the province of philosophy. Not the biological sciences, or any other field of science.

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen fat pat's incredible proof of the afterlife n' shit. You utter cretin...

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 06:30:39 PM
'Material realities?' Riiight... It deals with a lot the theoretical too. You do know that right??

  Material in the sense of things made of matter, and the laws under which such things operate.

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The soul does not exist and therefore nuking those developing cells is completely legitimate. Evolutionary scientists would agree. You're now trying to disguise your Christian 'Faith' based argument with some irrelevant philosophical mumbo jumbo but facts don't give a fuck about your feelings (or mine).

  First tell me what a soul is, then tell me how evolutionary science can demonstrate its nonexistence. And was Aristotle a Christian?

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on May 09, 2022, 09:21:23 PM
First tell me what a soul is

Sure, it isn't...

That was easy.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:16:51 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 09:14:46 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:06:31 PM

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
Your complete failure to even present an argument in rebuttal is proof you have no idea what you're talking about and nothing you say should ever be taken seriously.

What? I want a bedwetter bible licker like you to take me seriously, or any holy shaman? LOOOL

But let's all hear fat pat's argument for the existence of a soul and his beloved zod. I think we will be waiting for a loooong time. Meanwhile back in the real-world all fat pat has to do is some googling on neuroscience and the existence of the soul (and make sure it's peer reviewed and not some shit god lovers in disguise).

Do your own fucking research you lazy twit.

You are such a fucking idiot it's unbelievable. You're the one who claimed biology supports the existence of the soul, not me. Just because you have no defense for your claim doesn't mean you can ignore all your own posts and pretend you were the one making my points.

Despite what insane shit you believe, you insane anti-science religious fanatic wacko, the soul is the province of philosophy. Not the biological sciences, or any other field of science.

And there you have it ladies and gentlemen fat pat's incredible proof of the afterlife n' shit. You utter cretin...

It's fucking Bizzaroworld here today. Rob Necroticbrain has completely lost it. Quick summary of the recent discussion:

Some poster: The soul is a matter of philosophy, not science
Rob Necronoggin: Bullshit.
Me: It clearly is a matter of philosophy, not science. Please explain how you think science defines the soul.
Rob Necronoggin: Why?
Me: You made the argument, defend it.
Rob Necronoggin: I don't feel like it.
Me: Then you're an idiot.
Rob Necronoggin: No, you need to provide some evidence that the soul is defined by science!
Me: WTF, you can't just repeat my own claims, as if you were the one who made them. You need to defend your own claims.
Rob Necronoggin: No, that's what you believe!
Me: No, it's not. I believe the soul can't be defined by science, meaning it's relegated to the realm of philosophy. I'm demanding you provide evidence for your assertion, which is the opposite of that.
Rob Necronoggin: That's your evidence of the afterlife? Ha ha.
Me: WTF.

Quote from: Pat on May 09, 2022, 09:31:40 PM
Me: WTF.

Me, who gives a shit? 

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:23:45 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on May 09, 2022, 09:21:23 PM
First tell me what a soul is

Sure, it isn't...

That was easy.

You're doing what the YEC used to do, quote mining. That's not his whole question, we all can see.

For your edification (since you seem to be rather ignorant in this area) the existence or non-existence of the soul is a philosophical/theological issue, sience can't prove it doesn't exist, believers can't prove it does.

It's a matter of belief not of knowledge.

You're also demonstrating the exact same tolerance of all SJWs, I assumed you weren't one?

Bringing it back to gaming:

Boycotting a company over what you believe to be murder is something I would have been okay even when I was an atheist. Therefore, ANY company that throws it's lot with the baby killers will lose me as a customer FOREVER and I will make sure to inform ALL Christians in my circles.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 09, 2022, 09:35:38 PM

You're also demonstrating the exact same tolerance of all SJWs, I assumed you weren't one?

No, Rob Necronomicon is just gaslighting at this point. Look at my "conversation" (to use the world loosely) with him. Halfway through, he started pretending my argument was exactly the opposite of the one I was making, and that he was the one who made my arguments.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 09, 2022, 09:35:38 PM
You're also demonstrating the exact same tolerance of all SJWs, I assumed you weren't one?

ANY company that throws it's lot with the baby killers will lose me as a customer FOREVER and I will make sure to inform ALL Christians in my circles.

No, I'm not an sjw. But I couldn't care less if that analogy is made.

But as I've said multiple times here. That I believe those 'militant' Christians (aka fat pat and armchair, etc.) are the same censorious oxygen thieves as the woke scolds so as far as I'm concerned, they are as bad as each other. So fuck 'em.

And if you think 'baby killing' is a clump of cells (in the early stages of development) then you're your knowledge is severely lacking in that area. It's 12 weeks for a reason they didn't just pluck it out of the air. That's in Ireland don't know about the US and A

BTW - as I've said before I actually don't have a problem with people who are religious that's up to them (although I personally find the belief in a god ridiculous). It's only the wankers who try and censor shit. This whole argument started because the bedwetter Armchair gamer said he wouldn't buy the bundle and I said I would counter his anti-abortion stance. Simple really..

But bringing it back to gaming. I'll also 'spread the word' about the reproductive rights bundle.

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 09, 2022, 09:47:16 PM
That I believe those 'militant' Christians (aka fat pat ....

Hey Rob the Massive Disgusting Shit-Stained Blob, link to one post I've made, anywhere, ever, where I state, allude, or even imply that I'm a Christian, much less a militant one.

You're just making shit up because you a 12 year old enamored with Eris and without the brain capacity to defend yourself.