Quote from: Fantacide on October 09, 2021, 12:51:36 PM
Long time lurker here.

Yesterday the official/unofficial EF discord was renamed The Necropolis and ownership was transferred over to Ifrit (The mod that did the original banning).  Ifrit created an announcement message about how things will be changing in the future to create a safe environment. Fun side note, the actual EF user (I'm assuming the owner of EF)  posted in general chat a gif of that student giving a peace sign and fading away right after the announcement post.

Translation:
The Necropolis = TBP but on discord
EF decided to cut ties with them in a discrete way.

Good news for OSE EF and their fans/customers.

Quote from: Fantacide on October 09, 2021, 12:51:36 PM
Long time lurker here.

Yesterday the official/unofficial EF discord was renamed The Necropolis and ownership was transferred over to Ifrit (The mod that did the original banning).  Ifrit created an announcement message about how things will be changing in the future to create a safe environment. Fun side note, the actual EF user (I'm assuming the owner of EF)  posted in general chat a gif of that student giving a peace sign and fading away right after the announcement post.

Ownership transferred? So EF did own it before? And new ownership changed how it is run now that they are no longer in check, previously answering to EF?

Quote from: VhaidraSaga on October 09, 2021, 01:01:02 PM

Quote from: Fantacide on October 09, 2021, 12:51:36 PM
Long time lurker here.

Yesterday the official/unofficial EF discord was renamed The Necropolis and ownership was transferred over to Ifrit (The mod that did the original banning).  Ifrit created an announcement message about how things will be changing in the future to create a safe environment. Fun side note, the actual EF user (I'm assuming the owner of EF)  posted in general chat a gif of that student giving a peace sign and fading away right after the announcement post.

Ownership transferred? So EF did own it before? And new ownership changed how it is run now that they are no longer in check, previously answering to EF?

What I think happened here is that is WAS the official discord, but one of the mods got a bit too ban happy and EF noticed the incoming shitstorm.  EF decided to transfer ownership and distance themselves to avoid backlash. The mod that did the banning is now the server owner.  This is all speculation on my part, but I think that ifrit (the banning mod) and the owner/user EF were in general agreement about how things should be run until the abuse of power from the mod. EF realizes that they are a co-publisher now and don't want to damage their relationship with the cash cow that is OSE, or possibly put themselves in legal hot water.  I can't help but imagine this funny scene where EF realizes that if they go woke they might actually go broke and starts abandoning all their principals.

That is great news. Very wise of EF to politely but clearly cut ties with that Discord.

It is funny to see how Paizo is getting crucified by the same Woke mob they catered too imo.

As a company did they honestly think they would get a free pass just because they virtue signalled to the Nth degree. Yeah no they
Woke will turn on a company if it suits them. What gets me is the pure fantasy reality some of their posters live in.


One of them " don't you find it icky that even with the alleged bad behaviour on Paizo part it is still business as usual". Yes because a company is going to come to a full stop on their productivity and projects due to your outrage. In any case many will be disappointed as many companies will virtue signal yet when it is one of their own they hunker down on circle the wagons so to speak. Take a look at Green Ronin and their sheer hypocrisy on the subject.

This is why you never cater to the woke and you tell the woke to fuck off.

Hey guys what do you know of Workhorse RPG Studio and of Earl of Fife Games?

Quote from: Snowman0147 on October 11, 2021, 12:28:13 AM
Hey guys what do you know of Workhorse RPG Studio and of Earl of Fife Games?

They might be too small and insignificant to put on the list. Occule can't list every company. I never heard of them, but I don't know of every company either.

Quote from: Abraxus on October 09, 2021, 05:11:02 PM
It is funny to see how Paizo is getting crucified by the same Woke mob they catered too imo.

It is the nu normal. You get woke, you ape the Woke crowd, you get eaten the first time you sneeze without saying sorry.

Edit: As it was already foretold in, circa, 2018: https://www.therpgsite.com/pen-paper-roleplaying-games-rpgs-discussion/pathfinder-is-going-full-woke-but-they-were-doomed-to-brokeness/

Quote from: Plotinus on October 09, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
That is great news. Very wise of EF to politely but clearly cut ties with that Discord.

Well have they though? Until there's some other place that has OSE chat, and where Venger is welcome to post and people are welcome to post about him, nothing has actually been resolved.

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 11, 2021, 07:54:36 PM

Quote from: Plotinus on October 09, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
That is great news. Very wise of EF to politely but clearly cut ties with that Discord.

Well have they though? Until there's some other place that has OSE chat, and where Venger is welcome to post and people are welcome to post about him, nothing has actually been resolved.

Not too mention EF staff and creators are still going to be involved with the Discord server.

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 11, 2021, 07:54:36 PM

Quote from: Plotinus on October 09, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
That is great news. Very wise of EF to politely but clearly cut ties with that Discord.

Well have they though? Until there's some other place that has OSE chat, and where Venger is welcome to post and people are welcome to post about him, nothing has actually been resolved.

Could always try the necrotic gnome discord

QuoteWell have they though? Until there's some other place that has OSE chat, and where Venger is welcome to post and people are welcome to post about him, nothing has actually been resolved.

There's another Discord for Necrotic Gnome and OSE specifically, and I think someone above even quoted one of the mods from there distancing himself from the actions of the EF Discord.

Anyway, like I said above, it seems incredibly stupid for a storefront to have a Discord anyway. AFAIK drivethru and itch.io don't have general-purpose message boards and chatrooms where awful power-hungry ideologues with no oversight can stir up drama and problems for the brand. I suppose there is a comment section for each product on drivethru, but at least that's limited to specific products.

Quote from: Ocule on October 11, 2021, 08:44:51 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 11, 2021, 07:54:36 PM

Quote from: Plotinus on October 09, 2021, 02:05:48 PM
That is great news. Very wise of EF to politely but clearly cut ties with that Discord.

Well have they though? Until there's some other place that has OSE chat, and where Venger is welcome to post and people are welcome to post about him, nothing has actually been resolved.

Could always try the necrotic gnome discord

A few people have posted on the Necrotic Gnome/OSE discord about Venger's work and they are still on the server with the posts still up. Gavin Norman is also I believe either a mod or an admin on that server.

"Another AP for Pathfinder showed all men as incompetent, read like a tumblr blog and all the women were super powerful and if you didnt bring the black, lesbian, disabled ranger with you then you automatically lost. Iron Gods or something like that."


Wait what? Wich AP is that? That CAN'T be real, it's just to absurd to be, I have to check it out myself. It's for pf2, isn't it?