Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 07, 2021, 11:58:31 PM

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 11:56:10 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 07, 2021, 11:52:52 PM

  LMAO, if right wing church groups are trying to cancel tv shows for violence/sex/language they are doing a pretty terrible job.  Come on now, be serious.   Did you wake up and think it was 1987?

lol aside from like the ultra small church groups that are quite literally a single family, I don't think this has really been a thing since at least the mid-90s 

There's a few groups that are quite organized and don't get as much traction as they used to. But they still exist and they still try and get things cancelled to a lot less success than they used to.

https://onemillionmoms.com/

When they were much larger movements, they would look like these HUUUUUGE movements, but it was a group that knew how to game the system to gain an overly large influence over things.

And you'll still see them weigh in on things and make nervous producers pull things that might attract their attention.

  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

I clicked that expecting a geocities site, sorely disappointed 

  I think when all the Christians are gone, and the right leaning people glom on to some other system of values, some people on the left are in for a rude awakening.

Diogo Nogueira has commented on my video, stating that he's very happy to be on the Red List, but he very vehemently denies the claim that he ever threatened to punch Venger.

Does anyone have any idea where this rumor started from? I think we need to either find confirmation of it, or at least strong evidence of it, or else it should probably not be included on the description for him...

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:00:23 AM

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 11:57:48 PM
Id tell her "its a game and if you don't like it let him know." You can run your tables like a kindergarten. I like to run mine like I'm dealing with adults.

Does your table get a rotating cast of players every week?  Where the DM is seated with five people that they didn't expect, and the players sometimes come solo, sometimes come in groups, but almost always get one or two players that they didn't pick ahead of time.

We've got a unique situation. It's exhausting for me, to try and fit the puzzle together.

When I run a home game, I don't worry so much. I just pick people and run my game...

But I run public games for drop in players. We have to guard against things that you don't have to worry about.

Or you can lay down the rules and expect people to act like adults and not have to constantly run to teacher. Maybe in your world everybody is a perpetual child but I choose not to live in that world.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 08, 2021, 12:05:02 AM
Diogo Nogueira has commented on my video, stating that he's very happy to be on the Red List, but he very vehemently denies the claim that he ever threatened to punch Venger.

Does anyone have any idea where this rumor started from? I think we need to either find confirmation of it, or at least strong evidence of it, or else it should probably not be included on the description for him...

Never heard of this. I'd at least strike that rumor from the list if all we have is hearsay.

Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

Do you remember the PMRC very well?  they were pretty firmly pro-Reagan, too.  These groups tend to be pretty firmly aligned with social conservatism.

(And it's not the same as political conservatism, but it often gets grouped together.)

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

Do you remember the PMRC very well?  they were pretty firmly pro-Reagan, too.  These groups tend to be pretty firmly aligned with social conservatism.

(And it's not the same as political conservatism, but it often gets grouped together.)

  I think you are missing the joke.  By a mile.

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

Do you remember the PMRC very well?  they were pretty firmly pro-Reagan, too.  These groups tend to be pretty firmly aligned with social conservatism.

(And it's not the same as political conservatism, but it often gets grouped together.)

Are you going to keep bringing up groups from 30-40 years ago?

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 08, 2021, 12:08:13 AM

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

Do you remember the PMRC very well?  they were pretty firmly pro-Reagan, too.  These groups tend to be pretty firmly aligned with social conservatism.

(And it's not the same as political conservatism, but it often gets grouped together.)

Are you going to keep bringing up groups from 30-40 years ago?

I'm going to keep the quote so you can re-read what I replied to. Feel free to see why I brought it up, when  I was specifically asked about it.

This is pretty firmly off-topic, along with my own ways of running a group. (And I would love to treat everyone like an adult, but some people do not act like adults, and sadly, it's not usually the kids that I have difficulty with.)

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 08, 2021, 12:05:02 AM
Diogo Nogueira has commented on my video, stating that he's very happy to be on the Red List, but he very vehemently denies the claim that he ever threatened to punch Venger.

Does anyone have any idea where this rumor started from? I think we need to either find confirmation of it, or at least strong evidence of it, or else it should probably not be included on the description for him...

I thought it was mentioned awhile ago because some Diogo guy threatened Venger. It came up in an episode of inappropriate characters and there aren't many people named Diogo in the OSR scene (pretty sure he's the only one).

I had assumed it was him and in that case my apologies, still not a fan of his art but I apologize for the rest.

Edit: tried to find proof of it originally but as I don't have a Twitter account and some osr Facebook groups have shifted, finding the actual post was difficult.

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 08, 2021, 12:05:58 AM

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:00:23 AM

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 11:57:48 PM
Id tell her "its a game and if you don't like it let him know." You can run your tables like a kindergarten. I like to run mine like I'm dealing with adults.

Does your table get a rotating cast of players every week?  Where the DM is seated with five people that they didn't expect, and the players sometimes come solo, sometimes come in groups, but almost always get one or two players that they didn't pick ahead of time.

We've got a unique situation. It's exhausting for me, to try and fit the puzzle together.

When I run a home game, I don't worry so much. I just pick people and run my game...

But I run public games for drop in players. We have to guard against things that you don't have to worry about.

Or you can lay down the rules and expect people to act like adults and not have to constantly run to teacher. Maybe in your world everybody is a perpetual child but I choose not to live in that world.

Honestly, once you get people together, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME REASON in a hobby/pastime space they quickly want a hierarchy and they certainly want a person to take complaints to.   My favorite was the time I had a self described feminist send her husband to me to complain about what another woman's clothes she wore to train (BJJ) in under her gi. 

Quote from: hoshisabi on September 08, 2021, 12:07:07 AM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 08, 2021, 12:00:43 AM
  Phone rang
  It was Tipper Gore calling from the early 90's, said it was for you.

Do you remember the PMRC very well?  they were pretty firmly pro-Reagan, too.  These groups tend to be pretty firmly aligned with social conservatism.

(And it's not the same as political conservatism, but it often gets grouped together.)

Yes, I'm sure we all remember the 80's and 90's outrage, satanic panic, and attempt to sanitize entertainment.

That's why we're concerned about woke and cancel culture now, today.

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 11:53:26 PMThis isn't the 80s and 90s.

*sigh* Remember how cool movies, RPGs, and video games were in the 90s? I want to go back.

Say what you will about the religious right, but they at least fought their culture war battles out in the open. They were jerks, but they were honest jerks. There's nothing dishonest about saying, "I don't like what you are doing". At least, compared to "I don't like what you are doing and I'm going to get you banned from Facebook/Twitter/Reddit so you can't respond and use sympathetic journalists to smear your name and CloudFlare to take down you website and MasterCard/PayPal to not allow you to make money and put you on a black list so that people who don't even know why I'm angry at you will hate you too."

That dirty pool is so extreme we need a Geneva Convention for protecting our human rights from the SJW mob.

I never thought I'd see the day when I missed the religious right...

Quote from: Squidi on September 08, 2021, 12:13:50 AM

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 11:53:26 PMThis isn't the 80s and 90s.

*sigh* Remember how cool movies, RPGs, and video games were in the 90s? I want to go back.

Say what you will about the religious right, but they at least fought their culture war battles out in the open. They were jerks, but they were honest jerks. There's nothing dishonest about saying, "I don't like what you are doing". At least, compared to "I don't like what you are doing and I'm going to get you banned from Facebook/Twitter/Reddit so you can't respond and use sympathetic journalists to smear your name and CloudFlare to take down you website and MasterCard/PayPal to not allow you to make money and put you on a black list so that people who don't even know why I'm angry at you will hate you too."

That dirty pool is so extreme we need a Geneva Convention for protecting our human rights from the SJW mob.

I never thought I'd see the day when I missed the religious right...

Imo everything went to shit and became boring because people and companies decided to eschew genuine creativity for what would be scientifically proven to make the most profit.

Quote from: Squidi on September 08, 2021, 12:13:50 AM

Quote from: ArtemisWyrm on September 07, 2021, 11:53:26 PMThis isn't the 80s and 90s.

*sigh* Remember how cool movies, RPGs, and video games were in the 90s? I want to go back.

Say what you will about the religious right, but they at least fought their culture war battles out in the open. They were jerks, but they were honest jerks. There's nothing dishonest about saying, "I don't like what you are doing". At least, compared to "I don't like what you are doing and I'm going to get you banned from Facebook/Twitter/Reddit so you can't respond and use sympathetic journalists to smear your name and CloudFlare to take down you website and MasterCard/PayPal to not allow you to make money and put you on a black list so that people who don't even know why I'm angry at you will hate you too."

That dirty pool is so extreme we need a Geneva Convention for protecting our human rights from the SJW mob.

I never thought I'd see the day when I missed the religious right...

  Little did they know Movies laden with degeneracy were not going to be the big pit of sin.   The internet can allow any kid to see the most extreme porn imaginable at any time, and anywhere.