I love all the "reports about what people are saying" (in the bubble) from the "dude let's be real" angle.  Sure everyone thinks you're the mean girl who decides if fetch will happen. Right. T-pose for dominance harder.

What weak, sad, fucking bullshit.

The only people offended by this are the SJWs, a few people who write clickbait aggregator blogs, and no one else but them and their usual victims even cares. Those poor addled twerps have to pretend they are having a great time being not offended so they can schoolyard gaslight* anyone who supports the list or they have to try and turn it into a great shame that should be dog piled. A few are trying both at the same time.

The list exists. It's not up for a vote.

New Johnny Rando #114 who just popped in like 1-113 some from the same IP to tell us how hard he is laughing and how it's bad because everyone who hasn't blocked him on twitter or blacklisted the terms D&D and RPG says it is bad but also no one cares but it's funny but you need to change it and blah blah blah isn't being taken seriously and their opinion is not especially valued. Astroturf has a plastic smell.

*Nobody even cares about new Air Jordans anymore stupid! LOLOLOLOL said all the kids in their payless basketball specials.

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
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Matt Tiabbi wrote a very good article about this called "The Myth of the Winnable Culture War" that I think you should read. ...

Tiabbi is entitled to his opinion.

He is also wrong in many of his core assumptions.

But that is his privilege.

As for "unwinnable": Yes, the enemy gets a vote, and "wars" have uncertain outcomes.

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
We might as well learn to talk to each other.
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Stop with the tribalism and start engaging with others as people.  You might learn a thing or two.

Go post that at RPG.net, or even EN world when a relevant thread comes up, and tell them all about how they should engage with people on the right that they disagree with.

Please make sure to include the parts about their childish squabbling and how they can learn a thing or two.

Come back and let us know how that goes for you...

Thanks for making the list and keeping it up to date, avoiding woke companies and their sjw products will be much easier now.

Quote from: palaeomerus on September 07, 2021, 05:07:36 PM
I love all the "reports about what people are saying" (in the bubble) from the "dude let's be real" angle.  Sure everyone thinks you're the mean girl who decides if fetch will happen. Right. T-pose for dominance harder.

What weak, sad, fucking bullshit.

The only people offended by this are the SJWs, a few people who write clickbait aggregator blogs, and no one else but them and their usual victims even cares. Those poor addled twerps have to pretend they are having a great time being not offended so they can schoolyard gaslight* anyone who supports the list or they have to try and turn it into a great shame that should be dog piled. A few are trying both at the same time.

The list exists. It's not up for a vote.

New Johnny Rando #114 who just popped in like 1-113 some from the same IP to tell us how hard he is laughing and how it's bad because everyone who hasn't blocked him on twitter or blacklisted the terms D&D and RPG says it is bad but also no one cares but it's funny but you need to change it and blah blah blah isn't being taken seriously and their opinion is not especially valued. Astroturf has a plastic smell.

*Nobody even cares about new Air Jordans anymore stupid! LOLOLOLOL said all the kids in their payless basketball specials.

Feels moreso like the astroturfing is so that they can just dismiss the list because "look their own are doing it to so it doesn't matter!"

It's a joke, and I love it too

Is anyone aware of a similar list for the video game industry?  After recent actions by Shipwright Studios and Tripwire Interactive I'm feeling a desire to be more selective with my purchases in that arena as well.

Quite a few of the woke companies have explicitly stated that they don't want badfans playing their games. How could anyone have a problem when the badfans take such companies at their word and decide to spend their time and money elsewhere? Seems to me like twitter is looking for a reason to be offended and had a 10 minute tantrum and has since moved on to the next cause.

Quote from: Mishihari on September 07, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
Is anyone aware of a similar list for the video game industry?  After recent actions by Shipwright Studios and Tripwire Interactive I'm feeling a desire to be more selective with my purchases in that arena as well.

Sadly no, the videogame hobby had something kind-of going during the early days of GG but there isn't anything concrete. IMO it's because of the nature of OSR and the DIY attitude of TTRPG vs videogames and other media and escapism forms.

Quote from: therealjcm on September 07, 2021, 05:29:25 PMSeems to me like twitter is looking for a reason to be offended and had a 10 minute tantrum and has since moved on to the next cause.

That's twitter in a nutshell. 

Maybe I wasn't clear enough when I said this last time (bear with me, I just got back from DragonCon).

If you talk about how you don't want my money, that I'm a bigot, a racist, a deplorable, etc, etc... try not to have that surprised Pikachu face when I opt to not give you my money.

And if I think your stuff is useful enough, try not to be surprised when I pirate it and torrent it across the web.

Because fuck you, that's why.

Welcome to the new Fight Club, motherfuckers. It's the future you chose.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 07, 2021, 05:34:56 PM
Maybe I wasn't clear enough when I said this last time (bear with me, I just got back from DragonCon).

If you talk about how you don't want my money, that I'm a bigot, a racist, a deplorable, etc, etc... try not to have that surprised Pikachu face when I opt to not give you my money.

And if I think your stuff is useful enough, try not to be surprised when I pirate it and torrent it across the web.

Because fuck you, that's why.

Welcome to the new Fight Club, motherfuckers. It's the future you chose.

Amen

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

I mean, Big Purple, Enworld, and Reddit are solid sources are they not?

Quote from: Jaeger on September 07, 2021, 05:09:19 PM
Go post that at RPG.net, or even EN world when a relevant thread comes up, and tell them all about how they should engage with people on the right that they disagree with.

Please make sure to include the parts about their childish squabbling and how they can learn a thing or two.

Come back and let us know how that goes for you...

Narrator:  It did not go well for him.

Quote from: PonchoGoblin on September 07, 2021, 01:16:16 PM

Quote from: rando on September 07, 2021, 12:53:51 PM
Hi All,
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- rando

First of all, most of the "horror stories" in the RPG Horror Stories sub are false, with multiple people writing multiple a week just to gain Karma.

Oh c'mon.  It can't all be crap.  They've been writing volumes of it in that subreddit for years now.  Almost 99% of it is about D&D too.  They rarely talk
about other RPGs...just every now and then you hear about interesting homebrews that went south.  I honestly think a lot of these stories are from when
they were kids or in their 20s.  I think quite a few people in their early 20s are still kids.

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The context of the Monte Cook consent form was not for convention games, because most cons if you run at them don't allow you to even broach taboo topics unless it is specifically a horror game in a lot of cases (in which case, what are you doing playing it if you need to be protected from those kinds of thoughts?). The context and intent was to try and push it on people's home games, particularly forcing them to include "that guy" types who would try to make Mary Sue esque characters, along with the inclusion of multiple "session 0s" which is unnecessary unless you are trying to force politics (I only ever have one for initial character creation in a new system). Likewise, why would you need a form to go off about pronouns if you actually believed in what you said? Then wouldn't it just be easier to talk directly?

I'm sorry but I don't know what "multiple session 0s" are.  In somebody's home game, nobody is going to do this.  Maybe if it has to do with underage kids playing and you and I both know that such problem content would never come up.  My only conclusion would be that it was made for K-12 students and/or total strangers (perhaps online).  Aside from it being free, it's entirely optional.  You don't have to download it or use it. 

It's not in those beautiful hardbacks of an incredibly creative setting that I paid good money for. lol.  Is it red?  I would say it isn't.  I suppose it could be yellow for the pandering "Consent" freebie...but it's not anything and it came in after the setting was already fleshed out and released, so how can Numenera have the SJW taint from the guy who made Book of Vile Darkness? lol.  Alls I'm saying is that it seems extreme to be red.

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Also, Evil Hat is one of the worst purveyors of this kinda stuff to the point where I think Fred Hicks has absolutely lost it (which is a shame, met him before all the GG craziness and he was actually a fairly nice fellow).

Edit: typo fixes, I hate being on a mobile

Maybe so, but I hadn't noticed.  I wouldn't have known about EH politics if I hadn't seen the list.  I'm not really interested in their other materials they have at this point.  Nothing enticing.

-rando

Quote from: Shasarak on September 07, 2021, 05:49:32 PM

Quote from: Torque2100 on September 07, 2021, 04:16:39 PM
"Who cares what Twitter thinks?"

Uh, literally you since you're on this forum right now bitching about it and posting a Red list of companies you hate primarily because they were dicks to you on Twitter.

If it was not for Twitter then where would we source our Leftist tears from?

Greetings!

Cheers, Shasarak! Basking in Leftist tears!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK