Quote from: Nobbs on September 05, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Play the game you want, don't worry about the politics of the game creators. The best part about TTRPGs is that you can add or remove rules as it makes sense for your table. So who cares if a game designer is "woke" or not?

Well as an old leftie myself, I don't really care what politics a game designer has it's largely irrelevant and it's completely up to them (that's democracy for you). Especially given that this is an American concept where both sides have brought current political beliefs into gaming. Why, I don't know, as the two are not mutually exclusive. I mean, I don't care if they vote trump/republican (although, I'm not a fan) or democrat. It has no relevance to my country or political situation.

The only problem I have is when a company, who's 'woke' starts to tell others what they should or shouldn't do. Or idiots who try to force others to into censoring their art (in this case RPGs). Or when they try to get certain material banned, etc. Or even say what you must include in a game that YOU are creating.

It reminds me of the days in the 80s, when people tried to ban you from watching video nasties, like the Evil Dead or the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

We are are all adults, so no one has the right to tell us what we should be doing with our own games. And likewise, we have no right to tell the other side what they should be doing. However, more recently the other pro-censorship/woke side started trying to cajole everyone else into doing what they wanted.

And they can fek off as far as I'm concerned. My games are for me and not for anyone else.

Nice to see a few new faces here all of a sudden, incidentally!

Gosh, this list has been around for a month? I'm shocked that it hasn't come across any of my feeds until now.

So who does one have to yell at to be on the red list? Because I'm clearly not doing enough on my own...

Quote from: palaeomerus on September 05, 2021, 04:36:21 PM
So very very very very very very VERY concerned.

Look, is there a manager around here that I can talk to?

Quote from: Darklight on September 05, 2021, 06:58:42 PM
Gosh, this list has been around for a month? I'm shocked that it hasn't come across any of my feeds until now.

So who does one have to yell at to be on the red list? Because I'm clearly not doing enough on my own...

I guess the first step is to make some RPG products.

Quote from: CardassianArtistry on September 05, 2021, 06:15:17 PM
How does Heroforge pander? I don't follow any of their social media, so I've probably missed it.

Check their twitter.  They pander.

Quote from: pawsplay on September 05, 2021, 03:57:00 PM
A thread complaining about politics in game companies and correctness, that categorizes game companies by their politics and tells us which ones are correct to support and which ones aren't. A little ironic, eh, comrade?

  Several of them (Evil Hat, Postmodern Studios) have declared that they don't want certain people buying or playing their games. Why object to making that more broadly known so that they won't get attention that they don't want? 😉

That said, perhaps the list should be reduced to those who have made such statements, one way or the other, with documentation thereof.

Quote from: Nobbs on September 05, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Play the game you want, don't worry about the politics of the game creators.

While I don't think I would exclude a game product just because its publisher showed up on this list, I would consider it in my purchasing.

The last thing I want to do is buy a Cthulhu RPG from a company that spends the first few pages calling Lovecraft an irredeemable racist and that his work only has value after they've changed literally everything about it. I don't want to buy a Conan RPG from people who don't respect Conan (as I unknowingly just did). And, I guess, I'm not particularly interested in a fantasy RPG that doesn't think very highly of fantasy RPGs.

Hate doesn't generally produce high quality work, and when you hate your inspiration, hate your coworkers, and hate your fans, it'd be an interesting challenge to produce something worthwhile. I don't think I'd be able to produce "Ear-Splittingly Loud Bass Music Played At 2 AM In the Morning: The RPG", for example. Not sure I'm the right guy for that job.

Quote from: S'mon on September 05, 2021, 12:58:21 PM
The Sasquatch post is backers only, could you post it?

I have a PDF copy available but it wont let me attach as it is over 200KB

UPDATE #40Backers only
Alternity Update
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We'll get to the point: We are suspending work on the Alternity Shipyard book and offering a refund equal to its value for backers whose rewards included a physical copy of the book.


After several attempts, we have reluctantly arrived at the conclusion that we can't deliver this book in a way that matches the specifications we outlined or the quality bar we established with the rest of the Alternity line. 


We are prepared to provide a refund of $25 to each backer who had selected Shipyard as a physical book reward, including backers who had opted for the Expedition/everything tier. For U.S. residents, we can provide this refund via PayPal or QuickPay (via Zelle through our Chase acct) to an email address of your choosing, or we can send a physical check from Chase bank to your mailing address. International backers have only the PayPal option.


Because many backers — perhaps including you — have changed their addresses since the Kickstarter campaign, the refund process starts with you. To obtain you $25 refund, you should send us a message through Kickstarter that includes:


• Your preference for PayPal, Quickpay, or a check; and

• Your preferred email address if you prefer PayPal or Quickpay; or

• Your preferred mailing address if you prefer a check.


To send us a message through Kickstarter, sign in to Kickstarter and go to the Alternity Kickstarter main page. Next to the big Alternity banner, under the "Created by" header, click on Sasquatch Game Studio LLC, which is a link to the About the Creator page. On that page is a Contact Me blue button. Click that and provide your message. (On mobile, the Sasquatch link is right under the main banner.)


We will be processing refunds in batches each week through the end of June, based on the responses we have received each week. At the end of June we'll figure out next steps to take.


As for Sasquatch Game Studio and Alternity, we have no future releases scheduled. The Alternity line and our Primeval Thule products will remain available on DriveThruRPG.


Finally, we thank you for your patience. It's disheartening that we did not complete this last book, but we hope that you have enjoyed the rest of the Alternity line and are having great adventures in whatever futures you're dreaming up.


Thanks again for your past support,


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Which list is for the ones written by Jews.    Or have I blown the twist ending?

Quote from: valereck on September 05, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
Which list is for the ones written by Jews.    Or have I blown the twist ending?

Banned for Anti-semitism.

Quote from: valereck on September 05, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
Which list is for the ones written by Jews.    Or have I blown the twist ending?

Greetings!

How is a "List written by Jews" relevant to the thread topic? What do Jews have to do with what is being discussed in this thread?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on September 05, 2021, 09:22:16 PM

Quote from: valereck on September 05, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
Which list is for the ones written by Jews.    Or have I blown the twist ending?

Greetings!

How is a "List written by Jews" relevant to the thread topic? What do Jews have to do with what is being discussed in this thread?

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Pundit is getting the racists all stirred up now.

Quote from: HappyDaze on September 05, 2021, 04:03:08 PM

Quote from: pawsplay on September 05, 2021, 03:57:00 PM
A thread complaining about politics in game companies and correctness, that categorizes game companies by their politics and tells us which ones are correct to support and which ones aren't. A little ironic, eh, comrade?

What's hilarious to me is that I firmly believe almost all of the yellow companies will gladly go red if made aware of the list. At that point, the poor green team has to understand that when they complain that everyone is against them, well...they picked the teams.

If that was true, it would be fine, wouldn't it? I mean, why are so many of the leftists outraged? It can't be at the fact that a list was made: they've made outright Blacklists against many game designers in the green section for years, countless times.

Why should they be worried about a list that makes clear who politicizes their games and who doesn't? And who hates regular gamers and who doesn't? I mean, except for those who are being intentionally disingenuous, trying to look like their product and company philosophy is one thing when actually it's another...

Quote from: palaeomerus on September 05, 2021, 04:07:39 PM
All the concern troll piss indicates the list is not actually appreciated by those trying to pretend a bit too often that they are laughing so hard at it.

They're afraid.