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[List] TTRPG Guide to Woke Companies

Started by Ocule, August 03, 2021, 12:26:41 PM

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Brad

I went over this list and what struck me is how everything I've bought recently (OSE, C&C, Astonishing Swordsmen, Cepheus) are all on the green list, while stuff I thought looked like it'd suck is on the other lists. Totally did not plan it that way but makes the phrase "everything woke turns to shit" very applicable here.
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Quote from: THE_Leopold on November 29, 2022, 07:58:00 PM
Quote from: Hopladamus on November 29, 2022, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on November 27, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
Abbo, Thorn, Rhymer, S'mon, Jaseoffire, Meganova Stella, Ratman, Cathode Ray, and there may be others I missed: this is a WARNING. Post off-topic on this thread again, EVEN TO "REPLY" TO A TROLL'S ARGUMENT TRYING TO DERAIL THE THREAD with anything other than "this is off topic", and you may be banned.

I think you are being a bit harsh with these bans. It's easy to get derailed off-topic in these kinds of discussions. Maybe just ban them from this thread? Or give them a one-month timeout? I mean, it's your website, so you can do whatever you want, but I think it's a bit too much.

This thread is huge enough as it is without spergs going off tangent and topic to whatever nonsense they feel like spewing out of their mouth to prove their point. The harder you crack down on The Stupid the less likely people will come and start chasing Squirrel's thrown out by Trolls.

Back on topic: HeroMaps are good people. I spoke with them and they are friendly, helpful, and kind sorts (welcoming a new one to their family) and want to make good maps that people enjoy.  I honestly believe they were swept up in the BLM-nonsense like others were.  Plus i think they are Australian?

Art of the Genre: Solid Green. The work they do with their old school Orange spine edition books, straight up Conanesque Vallejo covers and all around solid group with amazing products should go on the Green list.  Their KS' are the antithesis of woke and great Old School classics.

I'll check em out glad to hear some awesome people. I think I saw art of the genre and hero maps around they looked pretty good especially art of the genre
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Quote from: Hopladamus on November 29, 2022, 06:55:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on November 27, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
Abbo, Thorn, Rhymer, S'mon, Jaseoffire, Meganova Stella, Ratman, Cathode Ray, and there may be others I missed: this is a WARNING. Post off-topic on this thread again, EVEN TO "REPLY" TO A TROLL'S ARGUMENT TRYING TO DERAIL THE THREAD with anything other than "this is off topic", and you may be banned.

I think you are being a bit harsh with these bans. It's easy to get derailed off-topic in these kinds of discussions. Maybe just ban them from this thread? Or give them a one-month timeout? I mean, it's your website, so you can do whatever you want, but I think it's a bit too much.

1. This thread is more strict than any other thread. I've stated that many times, because it is being targetted by people intending to derail it to reduce the utility of the Woke Companies List.

2. That's why I say "may be" banned. But people should assume that there will be consequences, at the very least that if they post off-topic they could be asked (even WITHOUT warning) to never post in this thread again.
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Quote from: Ocule on November 29, 2022, 09:07:07 PM


Art of the Genre: Solid Green. The work they do with their old school Orange spine edition books, straight up Conanesque Vallejo covers and all around solid group with amazing products should go on the Green list.  Their KS' are the antithesis of woke and great Old School classics.

I'll check em out glad to hear some awesome people. I think I saw art of the genre and hero maps around they looked pretty good especially art of the genre

I own and back every single one of AotG's books. They are magnificently reminsicnet of the AD&D days with blue maps, blazingly sexy covers, and challenging adventures that will inspire you to drag your group through them with horrifying glee.
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Jeebus art of the genre looks amazing I'm trying not to empty my wallet right now lol.
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I'm wondering if Games Workshop needs to be on yellow or red due to the thread that tenbones posted?
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Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on December 09, 2022, 09:35:26 AM
I'm wondering if Games Workshop needs to be on yellow or red due to the thread that tenbones posted?

They should be yellow IMO. Here's a translation of the Polish FB post from another forum (the FB post itself seems to have been deleted):

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https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376722-gw-drops-liber-chaotica-until-its-revised/

The long-announced position of Liber Chaotica, unfortunately, will not be published in Polish for reasons beyond our control. We realize that this information is disappointing and even devastating for you. You can believe us that we feel the same way. Liber Chaotica is an esteemed title that many of you have been waiting for. We feel obliged to provide you with an explanation of the situation. Games Workshop - the owner of the rights to the Warhammer brands - has pointed out that Liber Chaotica, originally released in 2006, contains content that is inconsistent with the company's values now, almost 20 years later. Therefore, Liber Chaotica cannot be published in Polish in its known form, and probably there will be no reprints of this item in the English version. Of course, we are saddened by this fact, but as a publisher, we understand that Games Workshop cares about the company's image. This is a priority for them and we have no choice but to accept our partner's decision. This is a very difficult situation for us. We devoted a lot of time and work to this position. We would like to thank the team: Grzegorz Bonikowski, Piotr Narloch, Janek Podraza, Joanna Podraza, Paweł Potakowski, Adam Stefańczyk and Rafał Zduński, for their commitment. We had no influence on the situation, but we still feel obliged to apologize to you, our readers, for not being able to provide you with the long-awaited title. We're really sorry about that. Does Liber Chaotica have a chance to appear in the future? We do not know. It has been suggested that this could happen after the text is first changed on the Black Library side to match today's Games Workshop standards. Will there be anything to replace Liber Chaotica? Yes. We have obtained permission to release the album The Horus Heresy - Visions of Heresy, but for obvious reasons it will have to wait. We thank you in advance for your understanding regarding this situation.
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Quote from: rytrasmi on December 09, 2022, 09:42:33 AM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on December 09, 2022, 09:35:26 AM
I'm wondering if Games Workshop needs to be on yellow or red due to the thread that tenbones posted?

They should be yellow IMO. Here's a translation of the Polish FB post from another forum (the FB post itself seems to have been deleted):

I'm surprised they aren't already from the "Warhammer is for Everyone" stuff and how it was used against certain fans, especially on YouTube.

Tasty_Wind

I don't know if this counts for anything, but I recently got Cy_Borg (a cyberpunk hack for Mörk Borg), and it had a sensitivity reader.
Now nothing in the book was woke, I just thought it was weird that this black metal inspired game set in a post apocalyptic neon hellscape where life is cheap, nothing mattered and you're going to die brutally and alone was a weird place to see a sensitivity reader. I'm not a fan of the genre, but wasn't the whole point of black metal to be as blasphemous and offensive as possible?

Hzilong

Quote from: Tasty_Wind on December 10, 2022, 12:41:53 AM
I don't know if this counts for anything, but I recently got Cy_Borg (a cyberpunk hack for Mörk Borg), and it had a sensitivity reader.
Now nothing in the book was woke, I just thought it was weird that this black metal inspired game set in a post apocalyptic neon hellscape where life is cheap, nothing mattered and you're going to die brutally and alone was a weird place to see a sensitivity reader. I'm not a fan of the genre, but wasn't the whole point of black metal to be as blasphemous and offensive as possible?

The company behind Mork Borg is already in the red list for their antics. Which is a bit of a shame as, from people who have actually played it, it sounds like it's a decent game if you ignore their overt political stuff and dodgy business dealings.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on November 27, 2022, 02:15:57 PM
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Got it!

Hopladamus

I just want to remind Ocule that Gabor Lux (First Hungarian d20 Society) and Jon Torres (The Basic Expert) should be added to the green list.

I

Quote from: PulpHerb on December 09, 2022, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: rytrasmi on December 09, 2022, 09:42:33 AM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on December 09, 2022, 09:35:26 AM
I'm wondering if Games Workshop needs to be on yellow or red due to the thread that tenbones posted?

They should be yellow IMO. Here's a translation of the Polish FB post from another forum (the FB post itself seems to have been deleted):

I'm surprised they aren't already from the "Warhammer is for Everyone" stuff and how it was used against certain fans, especially on YouTube.

I don't know that they qualify as "RED" for the purposes of this list, but they've been on my personal red list ever since they told customers like me not to buy from them, and I won't be missed.  They had pissed me off with the Youtube thing already.  GW seems to be in a race with Disney to see just how bad they can damage their own brand.

Godsmonkey

I would like to nominate  The Rune^Forge games for inclusion on the green list.

I own three of their products (Neon Blood, Preternatural Chrome and Task Force Raven) Not only have I not found any "woke" agenda in the books, the writer seems subtly based, but does not push an agenda.

He is also current military AFAIK. And the game materials are pretty good as well. (OSR and Savage Worlds)

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/11696/The-RuneForge

Thorn Drumheller

Quote from: I on December 11, 2022, 07:59:22 AM

I don't know that they qualify as "RED" for the purposes of this list, but they've been on my personal red list ever since they told customers like me not to buy from them, and I won't be missed.  They had pissed me off with the Youtube thing already.  GW seems to be in a race with Disney to see just how bad they can damage their own brand.

I'm intrigued....and ignorant to this. Got any good links?
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