Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 01:43:36 PM
Oh thought it was still spf

  No, I believe he left the position shortly after the controversy blew up on EN World a couple of years ago.

Savage Worlds Rifts is not woke at all by any conventional understanding. And I know a lot of Palladium die-hards digging it.

The books are smaller, so the condensing of the material leaves little to no room for political bullshit. It's lean and mean and lets you get down to business. That said - owning the original Palladium material is very helpful in coloring details, but it's not mandatory.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 21, 2021, 01:48:24 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 01:43:36 PM
Oh thought it was still spf

  No, I believe he left the position shortly after the controversy blew up on EN World a couple of years ago.

  I have to be honest, dudes asking for hugs are just fucking creeps. 

Quote from: oggsmash on September 21, 2021, 04:10:46 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 21, 2021, 01:48:24 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 01:43:36 PM
Oh thought it was still spf

  No, I believe he left the position shortly after the controversy blew up on EN World a couple of years ago.

  I have to be honest, dudes asking for hugs are just fucking creeps.

While my initial reaction is to find that behavior creepy, I've known plenty of women who ask for hugs.  Are they creepy for it?  Or is it just back to the 2 golden rules?

1. be attractive
2. don't be unattractive

edit: spelling

Quote from: critical_fumble on September 21, 2021, 05:25:24 PM

Quote from: oggsmash on September 21, 2021, 04:10:46 PM

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 21, 2021, 01:48:24 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 01:43:36 PM
Oh thought it was still spf

  No, I believe he left the position shortly after the controversy blew up on EN World a couple of years ago.

  I have to be honest, dudes asking for hugs are just fucking creeps.

While my initial reaction is to find that behavior creepy, I've known plenty of women who ask for hugs.  Are they creepy for it?  Or is it just back to the 2 golden rules?

1. be attractive
2. don't be unattractive

edit: spelling

Men and Women are not the same.   

Quote from: critical_fumble on September 21, 2021, 05:25:24 PM
While my initial reaction is to find that behavior creepy, I've known plenty of women who ask for hugs.  Are they creepy for it? 

No  the rules are different:
"The best thing about being a woman
Is the prerogative to have a little fun"
- Shania Twain

Quote from: DocJones on September 21, 2021, 07:52:19 PM

Quote from: critical_fumble on September 21, 2021, 05:25:24 PM
While my initial reaction is to find that behavior creepy, I've known plenty of women who ask for hugs.  Are they creepy for it? 

No  the rules are different:
"The best thing about being a woman
Is the prerogative to have a little fun"
- Shania Twain

"I feel like a woman"
- Shania Twain

Personally I probably wouldnt be able to eat a whole woman.

With Heart winning a bunch of awards I was looking into that game, not sure it's really my kind of thing anyway, but made me curious where they'd be on the list. "Rowan, Rook & Decard" is the publisher and they seem to have had a few successes already so I'd imagine they're notable enough. The games, especially Spire, seem like they have some kind of woke-ish themes, but I haven't seen anything too egregious from them and nothing directly aimed at their customers that makes me think of them as a red firm. Anyone more familiar with them as I've admittedly only had a cursory look?

Quote from: Allvaldr on September 22, 2021, 03:54:57 AM
With Heart winning a bunch of awards I was looking into that game, not sure it's really my kind of thing anyway, but made me curious where they'd be on the list. "Rowan, Rook & Decard" is the publisher and they seem to have had a few successes already so I'd imagine they're notable enough. The games, especially Spire, seem like they have some kind of woke-ish themes, but I haven't seen anything too egregious from them and nothing directly aimed at their customers that makes me think of them as a red firm. Anyone more familiar with them as I've admittedly only had a cursory look?

Yeah Spire always smelled woke to me with the whole cool tribal dark elves oppressed by lighter colored elves thing. I'm sure it claims to be more nuanced than that, but its all the same cultural revolution nonsense to me, just now with pointy ears. Its interesting that the people I know who like and play Heart never notice this until it is pointed out, so maybe they are not the same I'm not too sure. If people want to play a gnarly horror science fantasy steeped in tribal issues and I'd recommend either the LotfP or OD&D version of Carcosa.

Seems like Heart is probably just the most recent 2021 Ennies darling like Mork Borg was in 2020.
Also we should probably rank the Ennies themselves on the list if customers use their awards as a basis for purchasing games.

So this pinnacle guy, he's in trouble for having engaged in relations with convention floozies?

Quote from: Shasarak on September 21, 2021, 08:06:19 PM

Quote from: DocJones on September 21, 2021, 07:52:19 PM

Quote from: critical_fumble on September 21, 2021, 05:25:24 PM
While my initial reaction is to find that behavior creepy, I've known plenty of women who ask for hugs.  Are they creepy for it? 

No  the rules are different:
"The best thing about being a woman
Is the prerogative to have a little fun"
- Shania Twain

"I feel like a woman"
- Shania Twain

Personally I probably wouldnt be able to eat a whole woman.

Well not with that attitude, you certainly won't.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 18, 2021, 02:19:55 PM
I had a chance to glance at Western Hero (6th Edition) in my FLGS today. This was the product on which Hero Games had used sensitivity readers, and if what I saw was any indication, we can safely move the company back into Green--the material on racism, sexism, etc. was pretty mild and common-sensical.

I would argue that if a company uses sensitivity readers that means they are lost.

Quote from: Allvaldr on September 22, 2021, 03:54:57 AM
With Heart winning a bunch of awards I was looking into that game, not sure it's really my kind of thing anyway, but made me curious where they'd be on the list. "Rowan, Rook & Decard" is the publisher and they seem to have had a few successes already so I'd imagine they're notable enough. The games, especially Spire, seem like they have some kind of woke-ish themes, but I haven't seen anything too egregious from them and nothing directly aimed at their customers that makes me think of them as a red firm. Anyone more familiar with them as I've admittedly only had a cursory look?

I have both Spire and Heart.  They are both good games if the setting is your thing.  Heart has a nice Darkest Dungeon feel to it.  Spire is good for covert "vs. the man" type games. 

The people behind the games are pretty liberal and don't hide it much.  I haven't seen them go off on anyone in TDS style but I don't frequent their forums, if they even have them.  The books are fairly clean of "woke" though I recall Heart has the now all too common "Safety Tools" paragraph.  To me that's just pandering though, not fully woke.  I know others might disagree.

Quote from: horsesoldier on September 22, 2021, 10:14:55 AM
So this pinnacle guy, he's in trouble for having engaged in relations with convention floozies?

He doesn't work for Pinnacle, he just wrote a lot of content for them in the previous edition as a hired gun. He is now simping to be on the Red list just to get him back in the good graces of the cannibals that ate his ass.

Quote from: soundchaser on September 15, 2021, 11:53:32 AM

Quote from: horsesoldier on September 15, 2021, 11:40:28 AM
Although to be fair to Matt this seems to be a craven cowing more than anything he actually believes.

So a wimp category, perhaps... probably yellow, eh?

I'd agree with yellow. Just a typical craven businessman chasing the zeitgeist. Definitely not green.