Stumbled onto The Yellow King RPG and saw that Pelgrane needed more list citations.
The first book in the collection, Paris, has:

pg16-17:
"Gender and Background
Players can choose any gender, sexual orientation, heritage, and background for their characters. As the world tumbles into the 20th century, rapidly industrializing and with colonialism at its apex, it has never been a better time to be rich, male, Christian, and white. It is not just accepted but considered right and moral that everyone else knows their place in the social pyramid and acts accordingly.

You can handle the impact of this in play in one of two ways, by:
1 illuminating these attitudes by depicting them as they really were, even if it occasionally reduces freedom of choice for characters who would not enjoy full agency in this world
2 adopting a more aspirational portrayal, where racism, sexism, bigotry, and intolerance might exist somewhere in the background but never come to the fore to confront players who don't want to deal with them in this context Offer your players these two choices.
If even one player prefers 2, go with 2 You might argue that 2 either sweeps historical injustice under the rug, or breaks suspension of disbelief. But neither of these factors justifies a setup where some members of the group are called upon to sacrifice their gaming fun to the aesthetic or political preferences of the others."

There is a relatively big section on the X-card nonsense as well. What a waste of perfectly good index cards. I chuckle at the thought that maybe for sjw's the idea of a "horror" setting might be just a more traditional, conservative or a less woke time period. Spooooky conservatives... ooooooo!!

Quote from: shroomster on September 19, 2021, 11:46:08 PM
Stumbled onto The Yellow King RPG and saw that Pelgrane needed more list citations.
The first book in the collection, Paris, has:

pg16-17:
"Gender and Background
Players can choose any gender, sexual orientation, heritage, and background for their characters. As the world tumbles into the 20th century, rapidly industrializing and with colonialism at its apex, it has never been a better time to be rich, male, Christian, and white. It is not just accepted but considered right and moral that everyone else knows their place in the social pyramid and acts accordingly.

You can handle the impact of this in play in one of two ways, by:
1 illuminating these attitudes by depicting them as they really were, even if it occasionally reduces freedom of choice for characters who would not enjoy full agency in this world
2 adopting a more aspirational portrayal, where racism, sexism, bigotry, and intolerance might exist somewhere in the background but never come to the fore to confront players who don't want to deal with them in this context Offer your players these two choices.
If even one player prefers 2, go with 2 You might argue that 2 either sweeps historical injustice under the rug, or breaks suspension of disbelief. But neither of these factors justifies a setup where some members of the group are called upon to sacrifice their gaming fun to the aesthetic or political preferences of the others."

There is a relatively big section on the X-card nonsense as well. What a waste of perfectly good index cards. I chuckle at the thought that maybe for sjw's the idea of a "horror" setting might be just a more traditional, conservative or a less woke time period. Spooooky conservatives... ooooooo!!

I just thought of something.

OK, so you're in a setting where to quote, "As the world tumbles into the 20th century, rapidly industrializing and with colonialism at its apex, it has never been a better time to be rich, male, Christian, and white. It is not just accepted but considered right and moral that everyone else knows their place in the social pyramid and acts accordingly."

Wouldn't this be a good setting to play an iconoclast of some kind? With the full understanding that yes, bucking the system will be hard but hey it's Call of Cthulhu so any day you don't lose SAN is a good day?

This ties in with prior comments. The socjus fanatics want to 'fight the power' but they don't want to have to work for it. They want to play their speshul snowflake character, but they don't want to face any repercussions in game for doing so.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 19, 2021, 07:48:41 PM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

Found a thumbnail bio. https://tabletop.events/conventions/chupacabracon-vi/pages/sean-roberson

I suppose we could do worse than the line editor for Savage Worlds (Rifts) and who's helped author a number of Savage Worlds books. I can't find any social media under his name though.

I tend to regard the lack of social media presence to be something that strongly indicates green tendencies. Anyone wise enough to stay off Facebook, Twitter, etc. is probably someone with their head on straight and, ergo, not Woke.

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 20, 2021, 09:35:51 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 19, 2021, 07:48:41 PM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

Found a thumbnail bio. https://tabletop.events/conventions/chupacabracon-vi/pages/sean-roberson

I suppose we could do worse than the line editor for Savage Worlds (Rifts) and who's helped author a number of Savage Worlds books. I can't find any social media under his name though.

I tend to regard the lack of social media presence to be something that strongly indicates green tendencies. Anyone wise enough to stay off Facebook, Twitter, etc. is probably someone with their head on straight and, ergo, not Woke.

Yeah. They're not chasing likes and upvotes. That's usually a good sign.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 20, 2021, 09:40:05 AM

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 20, 2021, 09:35:51 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 19, 2021, 07:48:41 PM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

Found a thumbnail bio. https://tabletop.events/conventions/chupacabracon-vi/pages/sean-roberson

I suppose we could do worse than the line editor for Savage Worlds (Rifts) and who's helped author a number of Savage Worlds books. I can't find any social media under his name though.

I tend to regard the lack of social media presence to be something that strongly indicates green tendencies. Anyone wise enough to stay off Facebook, Twitter, etc. is probably someone with their head on straight and, ergo, not Woke.

Yeah. They're not chasing likes and upvotes. That's usually a good sign.

  Most of all its a sign they might actually be spending their time productively working on the games they want you to buy instead of hot takes.

I am glad I stumbled upon this thread, thanks to Ocule for creating it and for this website for hosting it.

All the bigger names on the list I knew about already, but the Dennis Detwiller (Delta Green) twitter posts were an eye opener, as someone who supported their CoC line of DG products it means that I, nor my group will be buying Arc Dream products.

It's a tough call between supporting decent product vs. bankrolling crazy/people who want you dead.

This list and thread is a good thing and a long time coming, people need to know where there dollars are going and what kind of clownshit behavior they could potentially be funding.

Good stuff

- Aux

Hello, Aux. Let me be the first to welcome you to the site!

Quote from: rytrasmi on September 20, 2021, 08:22:42 PM
Hello, Aux. Let me be the first to welcome you to the site!

Thanks rytrasmi!

Been going through this thread and a few others, so far so good.

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

According to his Twitter, he's a US Air Force Veteran, His profile picture includes a US flag and Texas Flag. Relatively good signs.
Works for Pinnacle.
Tweeted pro-Taiwan stuff.
Retweets videos about Stoicism.

Looks pretty good.
Only downside is that the main emphasis might switch entirely to Savage Worlds (ugh).

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 21, 2021, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

According to his Twitter, he's a US Air Force Veteran, His profile picture includes a US flag and Texas Flag. Relatively good signs.
Works for Pinnacle.
Tweeted pro-Taiwan stuff.
Retweets videos about Stoicism.

Looks pretty good.
Only downside is that the main emphasis might switch entirely to Savage Worlds (ugh).

Let's not fool ourselves, it's not like Palladium Rifts is some kind of pinnacle (heh) of game design.

That being said, I'm curious to see how things go.

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 21, 2021, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

According to his Twitter, he's a US Air Force Veteran, His profile picture includes a US flag and Texas Flag. Relatively good signs.
Works for Pinnacle.
Tweeted pro-Taiwan stuff.
Retweets videos about Stoicism.

Looks pretty good.
Only downside is that the main emphasis might switch entirely to Savage Worlds (ugh).

Maybe someone will put a leash on the line editor for savage worlds rifts.

Why would they put a leash since Savage Rifts is selling well vs PB whose year of " new" releases has been rehashing older books into a hardcover format.

Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 12:16:22 PM
Maybe someone will put a leash on the line editor for savage worlds rifts.

  Sean Robertson is the line editor for Savage Worlds Rifts. (Not to be confused with former line editor, head of Evil Beagle, and somewhat controversial Sean Patrick Fannon.)

Quote from: RPGPundit on September 21, 2021, 10:36:31 AM

Quote from: lordmalachdrim on September 19, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
So Kevin of Palladium Books in an interview has pretty much announced who will be taking over the company from him in the future. Anyone know anything about this Sean Owen Robertson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iubKJhZjm3Q

According to his Twitter, he's a US Air Force Veteran, His profile picture includes a US flag and Texas Flag. Relatively good signs.
Works for Pinnacle.
Tweeted pro-Taiwan stuff.
Retweets videos about Stoicism.

Looks pretty good.
Only downside is that the main emphasis might switch entirely to Savage Worlds (ugh).

I also saw a Dan Crenshaw and Tulsi Gabbard retweet. This looks promising.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 21, 2021, 01:26:52 PM

Quote from: Ocule on September 21, 2021, 12:16:22 PM
Maybe someone will put a leash on the line editor for savage worlds rifts.

  Sean Robertson is the line editor for Savage Worlds Rifts. (Not to be confused with former line editor, head of Evil Beagle, and somewhat controversial Sean Patrick Fannon.)

Oh thought it was still spf