Quote from: joriandrake;1012470Will this game have a presence on this forum? I mean a new campaign/play by post? I assume the setting focuses on Britain, how are knights (as example) handled from other lands like the Holy Roman Empire or Hungary? Are there special skills/traits depending on origin?

I don't really do play-by-posts myself. But obviously I'd be quite pleased if someone else did that.  The setting defaults to anglo-french style knights, but you could easily run it in a setting based on Hungary, the HRE, or the Polish commonwealth.

Quote from: DavetheLost;1012493Where are the spaceships and lasers?

Seriously though, this gives me a clear picture of what you mean by "medieval" which can cover about a thousand years in popular usage.

Yeah, it's late-medieval.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1012779It's not an expansion to Albion; Albion is a setting, and L&D is a system. It's a set of rules for playing in a Medieval-Authentic game emulating the late middle ages, for a world like Albion.  But you can use it in any other setting that has medieval-authentic elements.

It is certainly gritty, in a medieval sense, not a 'fantasy vietnam' sense. It's gritty in the way Game of Thrones is gritty.

I have Dark Albion but I haven't had a chance to really page through it; does it not have any rules? So it's like 100% a setting sourcebook? What system does one normally play it with?

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1012791I have Dark Albion but I haven't had a chance to really page through it; does it not have any rules? So it's like 100% a setting sourcebook? What system does one normally play it with?

It's compatible with pretty well any D&D or D&D-derivative game and has rules in the back for adapting your D&D game to the setting material. However,  you can also use the setting material without using any D&D rules at all; Pendragon or RuneQuest could easily be used as well.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1012779It's gritty in the way Game of Thrones is gritty.

"The historical 14th century is like Game of Thrones minus the lighthearted happy go lucky parts."  -- somebody here

I would like to add this: Indeed, L&D is a complete rpg in itself, to play OSR games with an authentic medieval flavor. BUT, for those who prefer high fantasy with dwarves, elves, etc., and spellcasters, L&D is still shock full of rules and information that could be used in other OSR games and campaign worlds. Examples: character backgrounds, alchemical products, poisons, demon summoning rules, and trials (this last I never saw it anywhere else in OSR games). So, lets say that you run a LotFP or a S&W game, and don't intend to change it. You would still find a lot usable in L&D to add to such games.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1012780I don't really do play-by-posts myself. But obviously I'd be quite pleased if someone else did that.  The setting defaults to anglo-french style knights, but you could easily run it in a setting based on Hungary, the HRE, or the Polish commonwealth.

I didn't want a different setting, I wondered if it is possible to play as a visiting Hungarian knight as example, coming for a tournament or somesuch.

Wondering if you would be so kind to post the table of contents...Maybe a sneak peak at what I can expect. Is there material for Spain and Outremer, for example?

Thanks,

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The PDF is now available on RPGnow / Drivethru.

The POD book should be available within a couple of days on amazon, but a few more days on OBS and Lulu.

Lion & Dragon on RPGnow.com

I can't wait to check this game out, I'm serious.

Ahh okay. So it is the oppisite of DA. Rules and no setting. Looks good.

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"Of course he has a knife, he always has a knife, we all have knives! It's 1183 and we're barbarians! "

I was able to order mine on Amazon today. I don't know if that actually means anything; Amazon often lets you order stuff they aren't ready to ship. But, I look forward to getting it regardless! As someone who happily put up with the madness that was 1E Chivalry and Sorcery in order to have a reasonably authentic feeling medieval european roleplaying game, this one has been a long time coming! Does it deal with guns? Any actually authentic war of the roses era game should have guns, which were common battlefield and siege technology by the 1400's.

Quote from: Larsdangly;1013049I was able to order mine on Amazon today. I don't know if that actually means anything; Amazon often lets you order stuff they aren't ready to ship. But, I look forward to getting it regardless! As someone who happily put up with the madness that was 1E Chivalry and Sorcery in order to have a reasonably authentic feeling medieval european roleplaying game, this one has been a long time coming! Does it deal with guns? Any actually authentic war of the roses era game should have guns, which were common battlefield and siege technology by the 1400's.

They were barely used  at this time, mostly the Ottomans knew of them and as for European realms, well... Hungary mostly on a proper scale. Their age you could say starts when the Ottomans conquered Constantinople on 29 May 1453, when the Turks used the Hungarian engineer Orban's (or Urban's) huge cannons which he first offered for sale to Byzantium but as Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos declined sold to the Ottomans instead.

As for how England used guns during the WotR, my knowledge on that isn't much, but as far I know use of it was limited and hastily used without proper preparation or training for troops and was mostly seen as a 'costy fad' of the 'mainlanders' (Europeans elsewhere) among the 'British' that is not really worth to bother with, which resulted in England being at that time somewhat behind in tech and tactics. While they were present (mainly among the rich, thus nobles), these 'hand guns' were still a mostly ignored novelty of various sizes and quality, using lead balls, and were basically nobleowned to show-off wealth or their mainlander contacts/relations. ("Oh look, I got this from Venice" or "My cousin in Hungary sold me this")

I'm not sure I follow where that expert opinion is coming from. Whatever may or may not have been going on in England specifically, the bottom line is that gunpowder weapons were widely manufactured and used in late 15th century and early 16th century europe.