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Let me rant about dice for a moment...

Started by Slipshot762, March 10, 2021, 02:40:30 AM

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Mishihari

I've got just the usual several sets, but with a couple of additions I think are neat.  I'm fond of the stone d20s and the actual gold-plated d6 my wife got me for a birthday.

Habitual Gamer

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 10, 2021, 08:00:22 AM
I don't get the dice obsession. I have about the bare minimum needed to play any system I use regularly; a few d20s, a dozen-ish d10s, a score-ish of d6s (that double as monster counters in D&D), and a couple of d12s, d8s and d4s.

Others bring giant bags; mine fit in a half-sandwich ziplock. It's not like they ever use more than a few of the same over and over... they just feel the need to drag all the extras everywhere.

I just don't get it.

It's a multifacted thing (see what I did there?).

I've played multiple systems over the years.  Some of them require proverbial "buckets of dice": Exalted, Mythender, Shadowrun.  Even in 5e, multiple dice are nice to have (e.g. 4d20 as a Fighter with two attacks and advantage on both isn't hard to come by, or 3d10 as a Warlock with eldritch blast).  Sure I could use the same dice for multiple rolls, but rolling a bunch of differently colored dice at once is just faster. 

Rather than keep them all separate, I pile them all together in a very nice hand made crushed velvet bag.  If I need dice, I have one place to look: the giant bag.

And sometimes I just want some new dice.  To be honest, my original blue Basic Set dice are so worn as to be unbalanced. 

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Habitual Gamer on March 10, 2021, 04:04:19 PM
Quote from: Chris24601 on March 10, 2021, 08:00:22 AM
I don't get the dice obsession. I have about the bare minimum needed to play any system I use regularly; a few d20s, a dozen-ish d10s, a score-ish of d6s (that double as monster counters in D&D), and a couple of d12s, d8s and d4s.

Others bring giant bags; mine fit in a half-sandwich ziplock. It's not like they ever use more than a few of the same over and over... they just feel the need to drag all the extras everywhere.

I just don't get it.

It's a multifacted thing (see what I did there?).

I've played multiple systems over the years.  Some of them require proverbial "buckets of dice": Exalted, Mythender, Shadowrun.  Even in 5e, multiple dice are nice to have (e.g. 4d20 as a Fighter with two attacks and advantage on both isn't hard to come by, or 3d10 as a Warlock with eldritch blast).  Sure I could use the same dice for multiple rolls, but rolling a bunch of differently colored dice at once is just faster. 

Rather than keep them all separate, I pile them all together in a very nice hand made crushed velvet bag.  If I need dice, I have one place to look: the giant bag.

And sometimes I just want some new dice.  To be honest, my original blue Basic Set dice are so worn as to be unbalanced.

People joke, but a guy did a series of tests on his X-Wing Miniatures dice and found notable bias. I can't find the link, but he built a contraption to automate rolling the dice and recording the results. He did thousands of trials and found up to 5% bias on certain faces. Those add up over the course of a tournament.

Anywho, I have the geek required Crown Royal dice bag with my most used dice. The D6es, D8s, D20s, etc.
I have a smaller plain bag with my Dungeon Crawl Classics and other funky dice. D7s, D24s, D30s, etc.
And I just added a Star Wars decorated dice bag with a bunch of pip (dots) D6es for Star Wars D6 system.

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Most dice are now manufactured overseas

Most dice bought in bulk are those that failed QA to be included in single sets
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Quote from: Slipshot762 on March 10, 2021, 02:40:30 AM
So I used to have a veritable 5 gallon bucket of gaming dice, accumulated over a lifetime of playing games, until I became a D6 system only cultist and gave all non-six-siders away to others who wanted to get into 5e. Gathering this pile of dice was a long involved quest, as the only way to really get them was if they came in the basic becmi boxes for example for my earliest sets, or leaving the hills and hollers to venture into the paved sodom and gamorra territories to a large game store like the rusty scabbard. I hate THAT worse than I hate finding out the moonshine was made with rye and not corn. Regardless, they were never cheap; excepting the last 5-10 years a set of dice, usually in a plastic tube, were always 6-15 dollars, and in the last 5 years 3 local game stores ran by fellow hobby goers popped up and disappeared in that span where a bin of random dice could be sorted through and piecemeal purchased at 25 cents a die or 75 cents a die. I had thought that this state of affairs was normal.

Now my oldest boy is off at college, and he calls and wants some dice because he joined a group playing 5e (yes there IS a furry playing a tiefling, thats normal for a communist temple such as a university or major news outlet) but I had already donated my non-sixers to the needy and unwashed plebes because I am a just and merciful god. He said no worries he'd get some anyway, then the next time I spoke to him I said send me pics of your dice, and the boy goes "All 140 of them? like individually?" and I said "you got the what now boy?"

He got like 18-20 full sets of fairly sexy looking dice in one package, I said how much, he says like 20 bucks plus shipping. I call bullshit, so I bother to google about as a man in his cups might, and sure enough, you can get bulk packages of dice dirt cheap, only the rarest most gimmicky dice made of strange things in strange ways carry the prices i was familiar with...

When in the name of tiamats 6th tit did this happen? Why the hell did I never think to google for dice before? I've googled up deals on obscure russian rifle kits and even old chevy trim, how did I not think to do the same wrt dice? Am I retarded? Is this me?

Don't get me wrong, cheap bulk dice deals are great and I wish such had been a thing from the start, but I got to say I'm kinda miffed about having quested for dice for so long and for such costs when now you can drop the price of a drive thru long johns meal and get enough dice to save or die an entire orphanage well into their young adult years.

Is this a result of 5e's growth and reach, creating a demand that increases supply and lowering cost?

As an aside, I told the boy to try Pendragon while he's there and he simply said "no". I'm like "don't come home until you've tried Pendragon, non-negotiable, I will disown you".

He's got dice. I'll buy and send him Pendragon myself if I must. Or actually, once he's got some 5e under his belt, sending him lion & dragon and dark albion might be better.

Anyway, dice man, I feel like I've been mining for decades, finding gemstone dice here and there, only to exit the tunnels and see the town sitting on a pile of dice and kicking them around like worthless trash. I feel somehow cheated, robbed, bamboozled, prostate-checked-at-a-dental-appointment.

We sour puss now.

People collect dice like they do Funko Pops.

jeff37923

Quote from: EOTB on March 10, 2021, 05:41:57 PM
Most dice are now manufactured overseas

Most dice bought in bulk are those that failed QA to be included in single sets

I find this funny because thrice now I have introduced myself at a game store by handing the owner a Crown Royal bag of 200 dice I bought in bulk off of eBay for $5 (shipping included).
"Meh."

Slipshot762

Thanks guys now I will forever suspect the guy with custom 3d printed dice is a cheater.


SHARK

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SHARK

Greetings!

Ahh, DICE. Yes, I have been gaming for many years, and along the way, I have built up a huge collection of dice. No doubt, my dice collection is not as impressive as the heralded collections that other people may have, with my collection being I don't know, Geesus. *Laughing* Probably a hundred or more dice. Yeah, probably 200 dice. I have a couple cigar boxes full of my favourite dice, then I have a giant pickle jar that is packed full of dice. More dice, honestly, than any normal gamer could ever need. I have handfuls and handfuls of the things. I suppose it is somewhat trivial and a bit foolish to buy so many dice. I know. Sometimes I feel terribly juvenile for buying so many dice. It's weird though. I just always love buying a set or two periodically, whenever a cool set catches my eye. I gladly fork over the cash to add yet another brightly coloured set of dice to the collection!

I'm certain I will be buying more dice, both at my game store nearby and from some of these online shops. Whenever I go to an upcoming gaming convention, yeah, I'll pick up a few new dice sets there, too, of course. *Laughing* I sometimes wonder, is collecting coloured game dice an addiction? ;D

I look forward to buying more cool looking dice sets!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
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Omega

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 10, 2021, 08:00:22 AM
I don't get the dice obsession. I have about the bare minimum needed to play any system I use regularly; a few d20s, a dozen-ish d10s, a score-ish of d6s (that double as monster counters in D&D), and a couple of d12s, d8s and d4s.

Others bring giant bags; mine fit in a half-sandwich ziplock. It's not like they ever use more than a few of the same over and over... they just feel the need to drag all the extras everywhere.

I just don't get it.

Neither do I honestly. But I can guess why some do.

I have one set of dice I've used since the 90s. They fit plus an extra in a little plastic jar. Currently sitting on my desk under a fist sized piece of obsidian I've kept for close to 50 years now. But still have my BX and Star Frontiers dice.

I have a set of GID dice a friend got me that really hold their glow. Those I just leave on a shelf so they glow at night. I also have somewhere a second chessex dice tube that got when forgot mine for a con. And one set of so far un-used transparent dice got because the looked nice and were reasonably priced. And one set of un-used dice that mostly got so one of my players could make a gaming dice necklace with chain cages for each dice. Looked rather nice too.

I also have a few singles, mostly d20s and 10s that were in the singles bin at game shops and looked nice. Especially my "bloody bone" one that was a miscast bone and blood swirl from chessex where all the red pooled at the bottom. Looks great!

And I think thats why some have several sets. They just saw a set that looked nice and grabbed it. Also comes in handy to have a spare if anyone forgets theirs. Or like me, forgot and needed a set at a con.

And some just collect dice in a big bottle like others collect coins. Kat suggested doing that with a wine bottle if could find one with a big enough opening.

Mistwell

Quote from: Slipshot762 on March 10, 2021, 02:40:30 AM
So I used to have a veritable 5 gallon bucket of gaming dice, accumulated over a lifetime of playing games, until I became a D6 system only cultist and gave all non-six-siders away to others who wanted to get into 5e. Gathering this pile of dice was a long involved quest, as the only way to really get them was if they came in the basic becmi boxes for example for my earliest sets, or leaving the hills and hollers to venture into the paved sodom and gamorra territories to a large game store like the rusty scabbard. I hate THAT worse than I hate finding out the moonshine was made with rye and not corn. Regardless, they were never cheap; excepting the last 5-10 years a set of dice, usually in a plastic tube, were always 6-15 dollars, and in the last 5 years 3 local game stores ran by fellow hobby goers popped up and disappeared in that span where a bin of random dice could be sorted through and piecemeal purchased at 25 cents a die or 75 cents a die. I had thought that this state of affairs was normal.

Now my oldest boy is off at college, and he calls and wants some dice because he joined a group playing 5e (yes there IS a furry playing a tiefling, thats normal for a communist temple such as a university or major news outlet) but I had already donated my non-sixers to the needy and unwashed plebes because I am a just and merciful god. He said no worries he'd get some anyway, then the next time I spoke to him I said send me pics of your dice, and the boy goes "All 140 of them? like individually?" and I said "you got the what now boy?"

He got like 18-20 full sets of fairly sexy looking dice in one package, I said how much, he says like 20 bucks plus shipping. I call bullshit, so I bother to google about as a man in his cups might, and sure enough, you can get bulk packages of dice dirt cheap, only the rarest most gimmicky dice made of strange things in strange ways carry the prices i was familiar with...

When in the name of tiamats 6th tit did this happen? Why the hell did I never think to google for dice before? I've googled up deals on obscure russian rifle kits and even old chevy trim, how did I not think to do the same wrt dice? Am I retarded? Is this me?

Don't get me wrong, cheap bulk dice deals are great and I wish such had been a thing from the start, but I got to say I'm kinda miffed about having quested for dice for so long and for such costs when now you can drop the price of a drive thru long johns meal and get enough dice to save or die an entire orphanage well into their young adult years.

Is this a result of 5e's growth and reach, creating a demand that increases supply and lowering cost?

As an aside, I told the boy to try Pendragon while he's there and he simply said "no". I'm like "don't come home until you've tried Pendragon, non-negotiable, I will disown you".

He's got dice. I'll buy and send him Pendragon myself if I must. Or actually, once he's got some 5e under his belt, sending him lion & dragon and dark albion might be better.

Anyway, dice man, I feel like I've been mining for decades, finding gemstone dice here and there, only to exit the tunnels and see the town sitting on a pile of dice and kicking them around like worthless trash. I feel somehow cheated, robbed, bamboozled, prostate-checked-at-a-dental-appointment.

We sour puss now.

I am primarily responding to just say how much I enjoyed your prose in this post. It was a joy to read.

As for bulk dice, I am sure others have answered that well by now. I got some during 4e so it can't be that new. I get them from China in sets for a couple of bucks and give them out to people who need them. Or I did, pre-pandemic when we were using real dice.

Mistwell

Quote from: Ratman_tf on March 10, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: zend0g on March 10, 2021, 10:44:42 AM
<anal attentive mode>Argh! Ugly dice are not in the correct colors.</anal attentive mode>

If you're talking about the "Holmes set", I also tried to get some Gamscience dice in the matching colors. I got close, but not perfect. Had to get a red D8 instead of a green one.

I still have my Holmes dice :) I also have my percentile set from I think Marvel Superheroes Game

Slipshot762

#28
Of all those I gave away I really only miss about 3 pairs of the percentile dice, technically d10 as I never did like the ones that featured 10-20-30-40 etc. Had a fat black one with round corners, very smooth and weighty, with the numbers filled in red, which I kept paired with a red twin with white numbers. Had a smaller/lighter feeling black one with sharper edges and white numbers paired with a twin white with black numbers. Then of course had a pair of radioactive slime green translucent, white numbers on one black on the other. I feel only the smallest regret, only every now and then, about only these 6 ten siders. Thing is percentile dice are still useful even in a game that uses D6, for random tables of weather or encounter or treasure that you might wish to craft and use. You can do D66 for these but percentile feels mo' betta.

Brad

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