Quote from: Dumarest;994687I got a hold of copies of Swords & Wizardry (is that the name?) and OSRIC a few years back to see what it was. I didn't know at the time that these games are just D&D rewrites with maybe a couple of minor alterations. I have nothing against it, but I don't really see why I'd buy a game that seems to be D&D plus house rules when I know how to make my own house rules already. They kind of seem like "D&D plus this article from Dragon added on" or something. I've only seen a couple of the "clones," though: are there any that actually do anything different or special enough to consider them their own thing rather than just "D&D Knockoff Mint-n-Chip Flavor" and "D&D Knockoff Strawberry Flavor"?

I don't know if by "clones" you mean what clones usually means in the OSR. If so, the answer would be no, because the whole point of Clones is that they're near-identical copies of an old D&D ruleset.

If, however, you mean Clones in the sense of OSR Rulesets in general, there's quite a few that provide some important variety.  Some of these, I guess, you could call "D&D with a few house rules". If you think LotFP is that sort of thing, and not unique enough to warrant buying, you'll probably feel the same about 70% of all the non-clone OSR rulesets.

But there are some that are a lot more different from baseline-D&D than LotFP is.  Arrows of Indra is very different from standard D&D. My Lion & Dragon RPG, which is coming out sometime before the end of this year, is going to be very different from any standard D&D, much moreso than LotFP is.

What a lot of the really-different OSR rule-sets have in common is that they're made to address "OSR rules for running X genre/style/concept".  Lion & Dragon, for example, will be for running a more Medieval Authentic game.

Quote from: Voros;995030Don't think anyone thought that. No worries.

You clearly have had better experiences on the Internet than I have.

Quote from: RPGPundit;995375Lion & Dragon, for example, will be for running a more Medieval Authentic game.

Looking forward to this, as it sounds like it will knock Gurps out of the niche I've put in in once and for all. When it the estimated release date? Awesome title, btw.

Quote from: Aglondir;995473Looking forward to this, as it sounds like it will knock Gurps out of the niche I've put in in once and for all. When it the estimated release date? Awesome title, btw.

Sometime between Halloween and New Years.

BTW they just added Hite's Qelong to the LotFP Bundle on Bundle of Holding.

Raggi has announced on G+ that Jonathan Tweet is going to be making a setting supplement called Al Amarja 1630.

Quote from: Voros;997706Raggi has announced on G+ that Jonathan Tweet is going to be making a setting supplement called Al Amarja 1630.

Yeah, a by that he just managed to super rekindle my interest in LotFP right there - well done, James

Also the first I have heard about an upcoming 3rd edition of Over the Edge coming up. Pretty exciting.

Yeah I don't care for most of Raggi's post-DFD writing and he can be a bit juvenile and the delayed product isn't cool but everyone who works for LotFP seems to agree he pays well and takes his work seriously. Good for him for getting the likes of Hite and Tweet.

Quote from: Voros;998035Yeah I don't care for most of Raggi's post-DFD writing and he can be a bit juvenile and the delayed product isn't cool but everyone who works for LotFP seems to agree he pays well and takes his work seriously. Good for him for getting the likes of Hite and Tweet.

Yup - I got a lot of respect for James as a publisher - both when it comes to quality of the books published and his relation with his writers.

There's no question that his production quality is always excellent. In terms of the quality of the content, I think he's something like 75% good-to-amazing vs. 25% poor-to-awful.

The weakest material is the stuff Raggi writes himself.

Quote from: Voros;997706Raggi has announced on G+ that Jonathan Tweet is going to be making a setting supplement called Al Amarja 1630.

Now that is a must-have.

Quote from: Voros;999138The weakest material is the stuff Raggi writes himself.

Well, the core rules he wrote were ground-breaking at the time for the OSR.  Better Than Any Man, which I believe Raggi wrote himself, was probably the best LotFP adventure ever.  So I'm not sure I can agree here.

Wait, people like Raggi? The reviews I saw for one of the adventures basically called him an emo hipster that got off to making navel-gazing adventures that were fun for a killer DM to gloat over but not for any players.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;999763Wait, people like Raggi? The reviews I saw for one of the adventures basically called him an emo hipster that got off to making navel-gazing adventures that were fun for a killer DM to gloat over but not for any players.

A lot of the LotFP adventures are basically like this; what we call 'negadungeons'.  But the ones that aren't like this are quite good.