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Author Topic: Lamentations of the Flame Princess  (Read 20799 times)

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« Reply #240 on: December 14, 2017, 07:12:26 PM »
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The thing that scares me in dcc are the high hd monster crits. There is pretty much nothing you can do about them.
Also dragons in dcc are really on another level compared to normal monsters and it seems that having a dragon on yourside doesn't help against the evil dragons breath weapon.
Yes, as our group found out, dragons in DCC are fucking terrifying. It's a feature, not a bug.
The rule that ended up saving (most of) the group was the 'roll the body' rule... which kicks in at 1st level. If your PC falls in battle, and the body can be recovered, it gets a single Luck check to see if maybe it's not quite as dead as it looked. That's why my wizard stayed dead, because she'd burned most of her Luck a few sessions earlier due to a trapped spellbook she'd found.
Being low on Luck is a bad thing... it doesn't automatically return to you, and being low will bring bad things your way (such as when the GM is determining who a random attack is aimed at). It's extra bad for wizards to be low on Luck.
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« Reply #241 on: December 15, 2017, 04:19:26 AM »
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Here's a rule: if something has become so much a part of common knowledge that it's a stereotype, you don't really need 'evidence'.

Brilliant that you suggest that stereotypes should just be accepted as true.

Precious how you present yourself as the more reasonable reaction to the stereotypes that you invent.

No need to discuss, examine, or reflect.

A+ brainpower on display. Full marks.

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« Reply #242 on: December 17, 2017, 12:37:07 AM »
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It can still be quite lethal at higher levels if you're careless. Last night our group was very nearly TPKd in one shot by a dragon... well, it was a TPK but the GM pulled a (fairly plausible) bit of dragon-ex-machina. The only permadeath was my 5th level wizard... who had earlier taken out a whole beastman warband with one spell.
It's easy to start feeling very powerful and make dumbass moves (but it wasn't my idea to put the entire party on the back of a dragon and fly into battle).


Yes, that's certainly been my experience too. We've had at least three of what we call "total party Bills", where every mid or high-level character except Bill the Elf ended up killed.
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« Reply #243 on: December 17, 2017, 12:39:59 AM »
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Brilliant that you suggest that stereotypes should just be accepted as true.

Precious how you present yourself as the more reasonable reaction to the stereotypes that you invent.

No need to discuss, examine, or reflect.

A+ brainpower on display. Full marks.


When you're denying something that is so well-known as to become a joke, it's not my job to convince you to stop trying to deny reality.

It's like, if you're pretending that not one catholic priest has ever abused a kid. There's been so much public information to the contrary it would really fall on you to prove why all of it is made up.
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« Reply #244 on: September 11, 2021, 02:26:34 PM »
Some ok stuff in there but Dungeon of the Unknown is terrible. Were Ken Hites Quelong and Kelvin Greens Forgive Us in the first bundle? If not, they are missing here - good books, both of them.

As a whole I've grown pretty bored with LotFP - especially that James stills hasn't bothered putting out the new version of the Ref Book - crowdfunded in f*cking 2013 and at that time was super urgent so the The Rules and Magic book wouldn't stand useless and alone or as the Indigogo campaign said "the new version of the game as a whole cannot yet go into the retail chain where it attracts new fans."

Bah. James should just admit that he is more interested in/making more money from scenarios and settings than his own system and admit the book is never going to happen - embarrasing as it is.

From the latest announcements on Facebook, it will be coming out in the next publishing cycle, (I am guessing early 2022, making it only 3 years late from the IndieGoGo estimated year of completion). 8 new books will be coming out at the end of this month.

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« Reply #245 on: September 12, 2021, 12:40:13 PM »
From the latest announcements on Facebook, it will be coming out in the next publishing cycle, (I am guessing early 2022, making it only 3 years late from the IndieGoGo estimated year of completion). 8 new books will be coming out at the end of this month.

"Only" 3 years :) I'll believe it once I have it in my hands... but fingers crossed and a good reason to necro this ol' thread. I'm personally way past LoTFP today, even if I picked up a book, and got it signed, on Spiel ยด19. But I wish the system Godspeed... if nothing else, my ol' books and the box-set will keep their value.

And that original completion year was (intended as) a joke in the first place.
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« Reply #246 on: September 12, 2021, 05:32:49 PM »
I really like the LotFP core system and have run it and enjoyed it. I'd love to see a new version with more stuff or new ideas. It's weird because it's author isn't that into it.

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« Reply #247 on: September 13, 2021, 12:19:30 PM »
I really like the LotFP core system and have run it and enjoyed it. I'd love to see a new version with more stuff or new ideas. It's weird because it's author isn't that into it.

As I have said before I only recently got into the OSR and LofFP was my introduction to it. That core rulebook you can get on Amazon has gorgeous art and said art was the only way I was able to pry my group away from 5E. It really drew them in. And the game I ran reinforced that vibe they got from the book.

As b/x games go I've since looked at others and most are just straight up retro clones with no changes. I love the layout of the OSE Advanced rules and will be using that too. But for whatever reason, LotFP is the only b/x clone to fix the Thief. They actually have a use beyond just poking traps and hoping they don't die. Also it completely ignores the attack matrix. I always prefer ascending AC as my stupid philistine brain can't do Maths the greatest anyway. So why not make it easier for myself.

LotFP had some amazing splatbooks and Veins of the Earth is my favourite. By far. Love the monster designs and ideas for campaign settings and I'm using it for my Arx Fatalis inspired setting.

However, something fucked must have happened because I tried looking for more recent LotFP content and they took a nosedive quick. Some of the most obnoxious woke shit I've seen. Maybe I'm just an old bloke but I can't imagine entertaining guests or other RPG gamers in my house with a book of fucking Vagina magic on my shelf. Hideous looking books that seem to have been made by and for 12 year olds discovering they have a cock and balls for the first time. They seemed to have become the norm for LotFP and I'm told the contents of the books are also lacking. Which is a real shame because I was and still am so very sold on the atmosphere and vibe of LotFP as presented in the original rule book.

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« Reply #248 on: September 13, 2021, 12:30:33 PM »
Yeah this is where you go for ZakS's books.  Red & Pleasant Land for Alice in Wonderland mixed with vampires should do wonders.  Perhaps you prefer the Maze of the Blue Medusa which is actually a art museum of the dead and long forgotten things.  Frostbitten is good if you want to deal with savage amazons in the far frozen north.

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« Reply #249 on: September 13, 2021, 12:33:22 PM »
I really like the LotFP core system and have run it and enjoyed it. I'd love to see a new version with more stuff or new ideas. It's weird because it's author isn't that into it.

As I have said before I only recently got into the OSR and LofFP was my introduction to it. That core rulebook you can get on Amazon has gorgeous art and said art was the only way I was able to pry my group away from 5E. It really drew them in. And the game I ran reinforced that vibe they got from the book.

As b/x games go I've since looked at others and most are just straight up retro clones with no changes. I love the layout of the OSE Advanced rules and will be using that too. But for whatever reason, LotFP is the only b/x clone to fix the Thief. They actually have a use beyond just poking traps and hoping they don't die. Also it completely ignores the attack matrix. I always prefer ascending AC as my stupid philistine brain can't do Maths the greatest anyway. So why not make it easier for myself.

LotFP had some amazing splatbooks and Veins of the Earth is my favourite. By far. Love the monster designs and ideas for campaign settings and I'm using it for my Arx Fatalis inspired setting.

However, something fucked must have happened because I tried looking for more recent LotFP content and they took a nosedive quick. Some of the most obnoxious woke shit I've seen. Maybe I'm just an old bloke but I can't imagine entertaining guests or other RPG gamers in my house with a book of fucking Vagina magic on my shelf. Hideous looking books that seem to have been made by and for 12 year olds discovering they have a cock and balls for the first time. They seemed to have become the norm for LotFP and I'm told the contents of the books are also lacking. Which is a real shame because I was and still am so very sold on the atmosphere and vibe of LotFP as presented in the original rule book.

I understand what you mean there, not every release is everyone's cup of tea. VAM and EC have a cool concept of miscasting, but I do not care for the actual spells or optional test rules other than that. "Fish Fuckers", while a crazy name, is actually a really cool adventure that has an unusual sequel in "More Than Meets the Eye" I am currently running a campaign that will be connecting a lot of the adventures from their Adventure Anthologies to "Better Than Any Man" and then to the Zak S. Adventures and then the Patrick Stuart Adventures as my table prefers more high fantasy medieval adventure campaigns.
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« Reply #250 on: September 13, 2021, 12:34:42 PM »
Yeah this is where you go for ZakS's books.  Red & Pleasant Land for Alice in Wonderland mixed with vampires should do wonders.  Perhaps you prefer the Maze of the Blue Medusa which is actually a art museum of the dead and long forgotten things.  Frostbitten is good if you want to deal with savage amazons in the far frozen north.

Yes, I wish Zak would be uncancelled and could publish (as hardcovers) Cube World and his other other cancelled adventures  that are currently only available as PDFs on his blog.

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« Reply #251 on: September 13, 2021, 12:39:57 PM »
However, something fucked must have happened because I tried looking for more recent LotFP content and they took a nosedive quick. Some of the most obnoxious woke shit I've seen. Maybe I'm just an old bloke but I can't imagine entertaining guests or other RPG gamers in my house with a book of fucking Vagina magic on my shelf. Hideous looking books that seem to have been made by and for 12 year olds discovering they have a cock and balls for the first time. They seemed to have become the norm for LotFP and I'm told the contents of the books are also lacking. Which is a real shame because I was and still am so very sold on the atmosphere and vibe of LotFP as presented in the original rule book.

I would encourage you to research it a little further. LotFP does not seem to operate at all on the left/right axis.

Raggi is anti-authoritarian, so things like VaM and EC, which were hardcover Free RPGs books, were more about jamming a thumb in the eye of pearl-clutchers. Basically every time the vocal minority in the industry told him what he *should* do, he doubled down and did the opposite.

And yes, some of it is super out there. On my bucket list is running Death Love Doom for a group of 4-5 people whose only exposure to the hobby is Critical Role.

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« Reply #252 on: September 13, 2021, 12:42:38 PM »
I would encourage you to research it a little further. LotFP does not seem to operate at all on the left/right axis.

Raggi is anti-authoritarian, so things like VaM and EC, which were hardcover Free RPGs books, were more about jamming a thumb in the eye of pearl-clutchers. Basically every time the vocal minority in the industry told him what he *should* do, he doubled down and did the opposite.

And yes, some of it is super out there. On my bucket list is running Death Love Doom for a group of 4-5 people whose only exposure to the hobby is Critical Role.

True. I would love for you to stream running DLD for newbies who have only experienced CR. That would be amazing to watch!

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« Reply #253 on: September 13, 2021, 01:19:30 PM »
However, something fucked must have happened because I tried looking for more recent LotFP content and they took a nosedive quick. Some of the most obnoxious woke shit I've seen. Maybe I'm just an old bloke but I can't imagine entertaining guests or other RPG gamers in my house with a book of fucking Vagina magic on my shelf. Hideous looking books that seem to have been made by and for 12 year olds discovering they have a cock and balls for the first time. They seemed to have become the norm for LotFP and I'm told the contents of the books are also lacking. Which is a real shame because I was and still am so very sold on the atmosphere and vibe of LotFP as presented in the original rule book.
If you think Vaginas are Magic and Eldritch Cock are Woke, you're badly misinformed.

Puerile would be a better word.

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« Reply #254 on: September 13, 2021, 01:37:54 PM »
However, something fucked must have happened because I tried looking for more recent LotFP content and they took a nosedive quick. Some of the most obnoxious woke shit I've seen. Maybe I'm just an old bloke but I can't imagine entertaining guests or other RPG gamers in my house with a book of fucking Vagina magic on my shelf. Hideous looking books that seem to have been made by and for 12 year olds discovering they have a cock and balls for the first time. They seemed to have become the norm for LotFP and I'm told the contents of the books are also lacking. Which is a real shame because I was and still am so very sold on the atmosphere and vibe of LotFP as presented in the original rule book.
If you think Vaginas are Magic and Eldritch Cock are Woke, you're badly misinformed.

Puerile would be a better word.
Wokies ARE the kind of people who'd write this shit thinking it was some rebellion against Corporations. Whilst simultainiously sucking off WotC, Disney and others.

Raggi hired wokeies that stabbed him in the back when he posted a picture of himself with Jordan Peterson. They were already pissed off that he defended the unpersoned Zak. I checked a lot of Raggi's blog stuff and he was absolutely a woke cultist before then. Like a lot of them, he still thinks he's a 90's to late 00's leftist and being edgy is acceptable to his woke friends. But also supported all the woke tickboxes.    And that's before we get into people he hired. Like a lot of wokies. Raggi thought that because he was nice and treated these soulless wretches well they wouldn't stab him in the back. Some like Zak, produced pretty good work despite being the typical male feminist. Others produced some really awful products under the LotFP banner.