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Labyrinth Lord 2 coming soon

Started by Jason Coplen, September 29, 2022, 02:38:43 AM

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Jason Coplen

September 29, 2022, 02:38:43 AM
http://goblinoidgames.com

It will be nice to see what he does.

There's a reddit post saying more, but not much detail is given:

https://www.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/xqqedr/dr_dan_proctor_announces_the_future_of_goblinoid/
Running: HarnMaster, Barbaric 2E!, and EABA.

jeff37923

#1
September 29, 2022, 05:48:24 AM
This should be interesting.
"Meh."

blackstone

#2
September 29, 2022, 07:18:03 AM
VERY cool!
Ironically, I just bought the Advanced Labyrinth Lord rules...and a second edition will be coming out first quarter 2023.
Eh, I'm ok with that.

Jam The MF

#3
September 29, 2022, 02:15:44 PM
I'm curious what the differences will be between LL, and LL 2E?  How close will it hold to Original BX?  Will it offer Ascending AC as an option?  Will it offer a tasteful new spin, on the old BX formula?  How different will it be in play, to OSE?

I bet it will get a lot of reviews, based on it being a Labyrinth Lord title.  Good luck to their efforts.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

BoxCrayonTales

#4
September 29, 2022, 03:01:59 PM
Great news! I love Mutant Future! I'm astonished that WotC has completely failed to tap into the market trends by releasing a new edition of Gamma World. Fallout and other post apocalyptic crpgs are hugely popular. A Gamma World crpg would have a huge audience.

World_Warrior

#5
September 29, 2022, 03:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on September 29, 2022, 02:15:44 PM
I'm curious what the differences will be between LL, and LL 2E?  How close will it hold to Original BX?  Will it offer Ascending AC as an option?  Will it offer a tasteful new spin, on the old BX formula?  How different will it be in play, to OSE?

I bet it will get a lot of reviews, based on it being a Labyrinth Lord title.  Good luck to their efforts.

Based on the announcement, it sounds like new art and errata, and he is returning everything to the original B/X stats. All the stuff he originally changed to avoid potential lawsuits.

Dropbear

#6
September 29, 2022, 05:22:49 PM
Quote from: Jason Coplen on September 29, 2022, 02:38:43 AM
http://goblinoidgames.com

It will be nice to see what he does.

There's a reddit post saying more, but not much detail is given:

https://www.reddit.com/r/osr/comments/xqqedr/dr_dan_proctor_announces_the_future_of_goblinoid/

I'm very pleasantly surprised by this. I always thought LL was cool but there was a lot missing, and I loved Advanced LL.

Slambo

#7
September 30, 2022, 09:46:41 AM
Im glad he isn't closing down. I kinda wonder how he'll deal with the current dominance of OSE.

PulpHerb

#8
September 30, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: Slambo on September 30, 2022, 09:46:41 AM
Im glad he isn't closing down. I kinda wonder how he'll deal with the current dominance of OSE.

I suspect that is part of the reason for this.

Crusader X

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September 30, 2022, 05:32:42 PM

Greg Gillespie is also releasing an OSR ruleset next year, which he said is similar to Advanced Labyrinth Lord.  I believe Greg wanted to buy the rights to Labyrinth Lord, but Dan Proctor apparently had other plans for the game.

PulpHerb

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October 01, 2022, 01:23:22 AM
Quote from: Crusader X on September 30, 2022, 05:32:42 PM

Greg Gillespie is also releasing an OSR ruleset next year, which he said is similar to Advanced Labyrinth Lord.  I believe Greg wanted to buy the rights to Labyrinth Lord, but Dan Proctor apparently had other plans for the game.

In this respect D&D, especially B/X, long ago developed a Unix-like family tree.

corwinofamber

#12
October 01, 2022, 02:07:10 AM
Good luck to him. But I'm not sure about the value of creating another accurate clone of B/X.
B/X exists and can be bought as PDF. OSE is available as a free SRD and a basic set. What does LL 2E have to offer?

I have B/X. I also have OSE. What would LL 2e give me?

I hope he gets some sales from people who are loyal to LL but otherwise there isn't any point to this.

Jam The MF

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October 01, 2022, 01:46:23 PM
Quote from: corwinofamber on October 01, 2022, 02:07:10 AM
Good luck to him. But I'm not sure about the value of creating another accurate clone of B/X.
B/X exists and can be bought as PDF. OSE is available as a free SRD and a basic set. What does LL 2E have to offer?

I have B/X. I also have OSE. What would LL 2e give me?

I hope he gets some sales from people who are loyal to LL but otherwise there isn't any point to this.


Perhaps it is a desire on his part, to update the legacy of Labyrinth Lord within the history of the OSR?  Perhaps he wants to inject some new life into the old ruleset's fandom?  Perhaps he believes it will generate some revenue for him?  Perhaps he didn't like seeing his ruleset lose ground to OSE, among the BX fan base?
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Persimmon

#14
October 02, 2022, 12:35:19 AM
For me the biggest draw of Labyrinth Lord Advanced is having everything in one book.  But I think the existing book is poorly organized and badly formatted.  It just has a sort of amateur look to it, including some of the art.  So even if he just fixes that stuff and puts it out in one volume, I'd be interested, especially if it were digest-sized because I already have plenty of adventures written expressly for LL.  It sounds like that process will take awhile, though, as he'll be releasing the books in stages.
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