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Author Topic: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted  (Read 17290 times)

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https://youtu.be/mPDc3DVHwKo?t=2946

Kyle can't wait for people who look like him (whites) leave the game.  Someone sent him to the Earnest Gary Gygax school of public speaking.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2023, 11:14:46 PM »
Does the "guys like me can't leave soon enough" mean like, companies that control stuff?  He was JUST talking about "white guys in a basement", so I think he's saying "...(white guys)... like me, can't leave soon enough", but I could easily be missing context here.  Is he really just making such a bold anti-white statement or was it just a bit of conversational flimflam confusion?

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2023, 11:33:07 PM »
He was talking about diversity at first and then he segways into the race of the customer base and continues in the same moment stating he can't wait to get rid of guys who look like him.  He was talking immediately about the customer base and then went into a statement about how he wants to get rid of guys who look like him.  To me, that's his ugly subconscious rearing its ugly head.  White leftists are the only racial/political group that has negative in group preference.  And he let that negative ingroup preference be shown.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2023, 11:37:03 PM »
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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2023, 12:07:52 AM »
Here's what I got of his actual words, for what it's worth.

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Jeremy Cobb: Can you identify any higher ranking positions that have been filled by people of racially diverse backgrounds?

Kyle Brink: I think if you look at the credits of our books, you'll see some lead designers there who are not cis men. You will also see a lot of primary authors on sources.

These are people who are coming up through the ranks and proving themselves and earning their respect not because of who they are but because of how they are as professionals - which is the best kind of respect. You don't want to be respected because you're the diversity hire. You want to be respected because you're awesome at your job. And that's happening more and more.

Guys like me, we're leaving the workforce, to be blunt. We're not the face of the hobby anymore. I'm not the majority of this hobby anymore.

And so it's important to me that my team of creators look like my players, and have the lived experience that my players do.

And I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that D&D players were all, y'know, white dudes in a basement. Which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so in my viewpoint, honestly, guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby.

And we owe you good games; we owe you good products. And so we need to make sure that everybody working on it is real good at it. And that means not just hiring but also developing. When we bring people in who are good, we need to empower them - give them more room to run. Give them guidance on what we learned when we were creating stuff so that they can create great stuff too.

I always hire people smarter than me, so that I can get out of their way. That's my approach. So as long as we stay on this trajectory, the face of D&D will literally change.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2023, 12:14:02 AM »
the problem with that transcript, he answer the first question and then the last three lines he's moved on from talking about D&D employees and is instead now talking about the player base..  Then he Earnest Gary Gygaxed himself by stating "guys like me can't leave soon enough for the hobby".  He moved the subject away from hiring to talk about the player base and their race, which was a racist move on his part.  He's working for a company based in Seattle, the area is far to the left and white.  A study was done on racism by political orientation and race.  White leftists were the only group that had negative in group preference, he's a product of his environment on what is acceptable to state publicly.  And even then talking about hiring by race and not talent is how we've gotten a D&D that can't write a module or book that is worth buying or will be memorable.  They wrote an adequate ruleset using help from a number of OSR resources external from D&D.  There is no good way to spin and exec talking about how he wants less of a race.  At least he didn't grow a funny mustache w/ armband or put on a rainbow hood during the interview.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2023, 12:20:10 AM by honeydipperdavid »

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2023, 12:19:58 AM »
the problem with that transcript, he answer the first question and then the last three lines he's moved on from talking about D&D employees and is instead now talking about the player base..  Then he Earnest Gary Gygaxed himself by stating "guys like me can't leave soon enough for the hobby".  He moved the subject away from hiring to talk about the player base and their race, which was a racist move on his part.  He's working for a company based in Seattle, the area is far to the left and white.  A study was done on racism by political orientation and race.  White leftists were the only group that had negative in group preference, he's a product of his environment on what is acceptable to state publicly.

Would it be any less horrible if he was talking about hiring?

Lets make an experiment, whenever he talks about white people/men substitute it for jews/women, done? If it makes you recoil at the racism the statement was racist/sexist from the start.
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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2023, 12:23:28 AM »
Here's what I got of his actual words, for what it's worth.

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Jeremy Cobb: Can you identify any higher ranking positions that have been filled by people of racially diverse backgrounds?

Kyle Brink: I think if you look at the credits of our books, you'll see some lead designers there who are not cis men. You will also see a lot of primary authors on sources.

These are people who are coming up through the ranks and proving themselves and earning their respect not because of who they are but because of how they are as professionals - which is the best kind of respect. You don't want to be respected because you're the diversity hire. You want to be respected because you're awesome at your job. And that's happening more and more.

Guys like me, we're leaving the workforce, to be blunt. We're not the face of the hobby anymore. I'm not the majority of this hobby anymore.

And so it's important to me that my team of creators look like my players, and have the lived experience that my players do.

And I think there's been mistakes made in years past where people assumed that D&D players were all, y'know, white dudes in a basement. Which has been a faulty assumption for a lot of years and gets more and more false every day and so in my viewpoint, honestly, guys like me can't leave soon enough for this hobby.

And we owe you good games; we owe you good products. And so we need to make sure that everybody working on it is real good at it. And that means not just hiring but also developing. When we bring people in who are good, we need to empower them - give them more room to run. Give them guidance on what we learned when we were creating stuff so that they can create great stuff too.

I always hire people smarter than me, so that I can get out of their way. That's my approach. So as long as we stay on this trajectory, the face of D&D will literally change.

So, white straight normal men can't leave the hobby fast enough for his tastes.

Are you gonna try and obfuscate as per usual?
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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2023, 12:40:37 AM »
Lets make an experiment, whenever he talks about white people/men substitute it for jews/women, done? If it makes you recoil at the racism the statement was racist/sexist from the start.

So in this experiment, there's a company where 100% of the top positions of power are all filled by women. (Something in child care or cute stuffed animals, maybe?) And the customer base was falsely assumed to be all female in the past, but has more and more men in the present.

So a woman executive says that she welcomes men into the company, and that people like her can't get out of the way fast enough.

It seems a little farfetched, but I think I could picture it.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2023, 12:54:02 AM »
Lets make an experiment, whenever he talks about white people/men substitute it for jews/women, done? If it makes you recoil at the racism the statement was racist/sexist from the start.

So in this experiment, there's a company where 100% of the top positions of power are all filled by women. (Something in child care or cute stuffed animals, maybe?) And the customer base was falsely assumed to be all female in the past, but has more and more men in the present.

So a woman executive says that she welcomes men into the company, and that people like her can't get out of the way fast enough.

It seems a little farfetched, but I think I could picture it.

Kyle works in the US where it is against the law to discriminate on a number of characteristics including race, its under Title IX.  What Kyle stated would make WotC liable for a discrimination in hiring practices to any white person Kyle was part of the hiring process or interview process.  Is it better for D&D to be sued under the law for him being a racist bonehead or would it be better for him to tell his customers he doesn't want white people?  What poisonous position do you want to defend, because that is what you are doing here.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/title-ix

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2023, 01:04:15 AM »
Lets make an experiment, whenever he talks about white people/men substitute it for jews/women, done? If it makes you recoil at the racism the statement was racist/sexist from the start.

So in this experiment, there's a company where 100% of the top positions of power are all filled by women. (Something in child care or cute stuffed animals, maybe?) And the customer base was falsely assumed to be all female in the past, but has more and more men in the present.

So a woman executive says that she welcomes men into the company, and that people like her can't get out of the way fast enough.

It seems a little farfetched, but I think I could picture it.

To be comparable it would need to be a company that has historically been full of women who were really good at the job, were attracted to the job because they love the industry, and spaces were always open to men, but men just weren't interested.

Then the industry suddenly attracts men that hate it, but want in anyway. So a shitheel exec goes on a tear about how the industry will be better once the people who always enjoyed and supported it make way for the fly-by-night male activists who want to burn it to the ground.

There, now your disingenuous comparison works better.

EDIT: And I just noticed how your example casually sidesteps the racism layered on the sexism.
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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2023, 01:37:06 AM »
Lets make an experiment, whenever he talks about white people/men substitute it for jews/women, done? If it makes you recoil at the racism the statement was racist/sexist from the start.

So in this experiment, there's a company where 100% of the top positions of power are all filled by women. (Something in child care or cute stuffed animals, maybe?) And the customer base was falsely assumed to be all female in the past, but has more and more men in the present.

So a woman executive says that she welcomes men into the company, and that people like her can't get out of the way fast enough.

It seems a little farfetched, but I think I could picture it.

To be comparable it would need to be a company that has historically been full of women who were really good at the job, were attracted to the job because they love the industry, and spaces were always open to men, but men just weren't interested.

Then the industry suddenly attracts men that hate it, but want in anyway. So a shitheel exec goes on a tear about how the industry will be better once the people who always enjoyed and supported it make way for the fly-by-night male activists who want to burn it to the ground.

There, now your disingenuous comparison works better.

EDIT: And I just noticed how your example casually sidesteps the racism layered on the sexism.

@Jhkim As noted above your example doesn't work for the reasons specified.

@Grognard GM It's Jhkim, he's gonna obfuscate like the good disngenuous leftist that he is.
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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2023, 01:43:54 AM »
I'm glad WOTC is putting their foot in it. Good opportunity for someone who doesn't hate the primary demographic that plays TTRPGs.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2023, 01:54:44 AM »
I'm glad WOTC is putting their foot in it. Good opportunity for someone who doesn't hate the primary demographic that plays TTRPGs.

If someone here wants to make some money, all they have to do is interview at D&D and if they get lucky, Kyle is part of the hiring process.  Now if you don't get the job, pay attention to linkedin at WotC and see who was hired for the position.  Were they a black quadriplegic gay furry?  Congratulations you got a lawsuit for discrimination in hiring practices.  Just bring up the quote in the lawsuit and have fun.  What Kyle did was fuck himself.  Either he openly discriminates in hiring so WotC can not allow him to take part in hiring OR he wants to get rid of white players and make way for the Great Replacement.  That last statement fucked Kyle in a number of ways outing him as being a racist.  He really needs a pink satin klan hood with a rainbow sewed on it.

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Re: Kyle Brink Executive Producer of D&D steps in it again - No Whites Wanted
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2023, 02:43:07 AM »
Greetings!

*Laughing* Fucking outstanding! Now that we are trapped living in the insane, corrupt clownworld, these kinds of anti-white racism, race-hating, and nihilistic, self-loathing Marxist diarrhea proclamations are becoming the norm. GOOD! Let WOTC show everyone what racist, hateful assclowns they truly are. See the absolutely insulting, offensive philosophies and ideologies that are embraced and promoted by the leadership at WOTC? Suck it down. Savour the taste. Get used to more helpings of this BS.

This is what WOTC has become.

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