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Author Topic: Kobold Press's Midgard setting  (Read 7671 times)

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2021, 05:48:40 PM »
Creature Codex was originally going to be labeled as Creature Codex: Tome Of Beasts II. Then they put out Tome Of Beasts II as a separate book. Which was kind of odd.

So the Tome Of Beasts II we got honestly should have been labeled as Tome Of Beasts III. Just for the sake of preventing customer confusion.

All three of the books work so well together. That I can't imagine them apart at this point. There is just so much good overlap in all three of the books.They are massive. Glorious. And there is just so much pure fun to be had from them. I honestly couldn't recommend them higher.

If you are going to buy these, Buy all three! You won't regret it for a second.

They are really good! Along with the adventures that use them, definitely a campaign enhancer. Love the Ravenfolk, love the Shadow Fey.

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2021, 08:15:21 PM »
I have most of their 5E content.  The monster books are great.  The Midgard setting has more good going for it than annoyances.  They have several TSR-era alumni working on things, which keeps things moored closer to my sensibilities for D&D.

Clockwork and steampunk stuff just isn’t my cup of tea…

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2021, 08:39:36 PM »
I seem to recall I got an older Midgard pdf, maybe by Wolfgang Baur, in a bundle of holding.  It was filled with art of gorgeous women. I was amazed they got away with it.

Darrin Kelley

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2021, 11:57:38 PM »
Given the amount of pure fantasy goodness, I see in the Midgard setting. It sort of leaves me dumbfounded that anyone would consider them a woke company.

Over what? One article in one minor book? That's sort of throwing the baby out with the bathwater to condemn the company like that. Especially since almost all of their output has been almost purely old-school in style and presentation.

My general conclusion? That one article was an aberration. In the face of a body of work that really speaks for itself.

So yeah. Adding Kobold Press to a list of woke companies I feel is more than a little reactionary.
 

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2021, 12:27:45 AM »
I cannot comment on Midgard the setting as published with any play experience; but I will say that in choosing or trying to design a setting I've always been pretty focused on something Arthurian or Conan like in tone, from what I read here this setting might just be conducive to such, if your inclinations run like mine. I feel compelled to state however that as of late I've taken to pining for a more Baron Munchausen type of fantasy setting.

S'mon

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2021, 02:41:59 AM »
Given the amount of pure fantasy goodness, I see in the Midgard setting. It sort of leaves me dumbfounded that anyone would consider them a woke company.

Over what? One article in one minor book? That's sort of throwing the baby out with the bathwater to condemn the company like that. Especially since almost all of their output has been almost purely old-school in style and presentation.

It was one article in a book of essays by a variety of authors, including old school luminaries. Obviously lots of different POV. So yes I completely agree.

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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2021, 07:47:05 AM »
It was one article in a book of essays by a variety of authors, including old school luminaries. Obviously lots of different POV. So yes I completely agree.

Yeah. The company is not responsible for every opinion piece that appears in one of its books. That's pretty much a disclaimer that appears in most media. That the opinion therein is not necessarily shared by the company that published that media.

Most books carry such a disclaimer inside of their cover page. In fact, I struggle to find a book that does not contain one.

So yeah. I think that makes it even more excessive that Kobold got labeled a woke company for an article that was nothing more offensive than literally anything that any other game company has printed.

But again that list isn't an objective one. It's a hit-list created to roast literally anything seen as being in opposition to the position of its author. It's a hateful screed that takes wide swipes at game publishers for simply printing something the author of said list opposed.

Such a list is akin to creating a list of books to burn based on the author's loosest whims. There is no objectivity involved in any of it. Just hate.
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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2021, 08:48:11 AM »
It was one article in a book of essays by a variety of authors, including old school luminaries. Obviously lots of different POV. So yes I completely agree.

Yeah. The company is not responsible for every opinion piece that appears in one of its books. That's pretty much a disclaimer that appears in most media. That the opinion therein is not necessarily shared by the company that published that media.

Most books carry such a disclaimer inside of their cover page. In fact, I struggle to find a book that does not contain one.

So yeah. I think that makes it even more excessive that Kobold got labeled a woke company for an article that was nothing more offensive than literally anything that any other game company has printed.

But again that list isn't an objective one. It's a hit-list created to roast literally anything seen as being in opposition to the position of its author. It's a hateful screed that takes wide swipes at game publishers for simply printing something the author of said list opposed.

Such a list is akin to creating a list of books to burn based on the author's loosest whims. There is no objectivity involved in any of it. Just hate.

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2021, 09:07:10 AM »
Well Darrin, I'm glad you've found a new hobby horse besides Hero System to display your complete lack of understanding of any kind of nuance.  I'll drop out here over to the side and watch the inevitable train wreck unfold, yet again.

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2021, 10:55:31 AM »
Nothing to see. I've said my piece,

I'm going back to building my D&D campaign world. Which I hope to share the components to in the future.
 

Darrin Kelley

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2021, 11:18:54 AM »
Well Darrin, I'm glad you've found a new hobby horse besides Hero System to display your complete lack of understanding of any kind of nuance.  I'll drop out here over to the side and watch the inevitable train wreck unfold, yet again.

The Hero System is dead. There is nothing about it to talk about anymore. The company killed it dead.

I spoke to Michael Surbrook before he died. He had proposed and was ready to fund a new, simplified version of Champions. But the company wanted to charge him a $1000 licensing fee for the privilege. But then at the last minute, they pulled out and instead went with Ron Edwards to make Champions Now.

Michael Surbrook gave up on the Hero System. Called it a dead system. And he was working with Evil Beagle Games to make a bunch of his library of books to be compatible with Prowlers & Paragons. But that all fell apart when he died.

I've moved on,

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2021, 11:25:18 AM »
I spoke to Michael Surbrook before he died. He had proposed and was ready to fund a new, simplified version of Champions. But the company wanted to charge him a $1000 licensing fee for the privilege. But then at the last minute, they pulled out and instead went with Ron Edwards to make Champions Now.

Michael Surbrook gave up on the Hero System. Called it a dead system. And he was working with Evil Beagle Games to make a bunch of his library of books to be compatible with Prowlers & Paragons. But that all fell apart when he died.

I've moved on,

  When did Michael Surbrook pass? I just saw him post on Facebook this morning...

Darrin Kelley

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2021, 11:35:53 AM »
  When did Michael Surbrook pass? I just saw him post on Facebook this morning...

They announced it a couple of weeks ago on TBP.
 

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2021, 12:05:28 PM »
I spoke to Michael Surbrook before he died. He had proposed and was ready to fund a new, simplified version of Champions. But the company wanted to charge him a $1000 licensing fee for the privilege. But then at the last minute, they pulled out and instead went with Ron Edwards to make Champions Now.

Michael Surbrook gave up on the Hero System. Called it a dead system. And he was working with Evil Beagle Games to make a bunch of his library of books to be compatible with Prowlers & Paragons. But that all fell apart when he died.

I've moved on,

  When did Michael Surbrook pass? I just saw him post on Facebook this morning...
10 years ago before I quit Facebook, I had a dead friend's account that kept sending me stuff for Farmville and some Mafia game. I guess the licensing for those let's them keep pushing their stuff even through the dead.

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Re: Kobold Press's Midgard setting
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2021, 01:41:16 PM »
I spoke to Michael Surbrook before he died. He had proposed and was ready to fund a new, simplified version of Champions. But the company wanted to charge him a $1000 licensing fee for the privilege. But then at the last minute, they pulled out and instead went with Ron Edwards to make Champions Now.

Michael Surbrook gave up on the Hero System. Called it a dead system. And he was working with Evil Beagle Games to make a bunch of his library of books to be compatible with Prowlers & Paragons. But that all fell apart when he died.

I've moved on,

  When did Michael Surbrook pass? I just saw him post on Facebook this morning...
10 years ago before I quit Facebook, I had a dead friend's account that kept sending me stuff for Farmville and some Mafia game. I guess the licensing for those let's them keep pushing their stuff even through the dead.
That's....Ghoulish, I would say. They may not be literally harvesting the flesh of the dead to eat, but harvesting their social connections for advertising.
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