As an addendum to my earlier kickstarter predictions.
The 4th (and last) 6 sided die will be the reward of the $95.000 stretchgoal.

Randomizing dice is just as easily done by shaking them in your hands or a dice cup and then slapping them on the table surface without rolling. The whole "unbalanced" thing becomes irrelevant then, if it wasn't already.

Quote from: CRKrueger;899646Actually I started using those dice because the sharply cut edges slow and stop the die way faster.  I've got Koplow and Chessex d20's that roll halfway across the table they're so rounded while an Armory d30 stops quickly.  I didn't see Zocchi's video and look into the randomness issue until later.  But yeah, "precision" dice are less unbalanced than tumbled dice, and that's a fact.  How much, of course, is the question.  I have a lot of rounded dice and I use a couple because they look cool, but I do the saltwater test on them just to make sure they're not cocked.  I owe it to my players I figure to not kill them with a "lucky die".

Randomizing dice is just as easily done by shaking them in your hands or a dice cup and then slapping them on the table surface without rolling. The whole "unbalanced" thing becomes irrelevant then, if it wasn't already.

Yeah, but I don't want to slap down dice like an idiot. Drinks, minis, etc.  Not good.
Instead I'll just use dice I know aren't as fucked.

Just putting them down is acceptable as well or whatever English word is more appropriate here. The important thing is you don't need to roll them across the table like an idiot.

Quote from: 3rik;899894Just putting them down is acceptable as well or whatever English word is more appropriate here. The important thing is you don't need to roll them across the table like an idiot.

The precision dice stop right where you want them, they don't roll across the table to begin with.  Another problem solved.

Quote from: CRKrueger;899900The precision dice stop right where you want them, they don't roll across the table to begin with.  Another problem solved.

Some people will want them to roll anyway because they think that will lead to a more (fairly) randomized result, and insist on throwing them harder.

My thoughts on "The Dark Eye":
I am from Germany and it's the P&P RPG which is definately played the most here. Is it good?
Well... I played played 3rd and 4th edition for the most part and 4th edition was really, really complex. It gives you all kind of opportunities to roleplay a balanced character. I think that in toal you can choose from over 1000 characterclasses and race combination. I am actually not kidding. Character creation is really something that takes some time, still the game mechanics are easys once you are done with that.

The biggest plus (or surplus) that comes with The Dark Eye are the campaigns. Those are really thrilling and they come with tons of source material - if you want.
There are campaigns which come with their own fanpages and DLCs: [URL="[url="http://www.borbarad-projekt.de/"]http://www.borbarad-projekt.de/[/url]"[/URL]

I havn't played D&D so far but from what I know I tends to focus on combat. The Dark Eye however really centers around the world and involves more roleplay interaction and is not really about cleaning up a dungeon.

If 5th editions comes with the right campaigns e.g. Bloody Sea, the Borbarad Campaign, Dust and Stars, The Phileasson campaign and Year of the Griffin it is a MUST BUY!

I see an obvious "faith in the system" present, even when it comes to dice... Trust an American, if there's a way to cheat, we already knew about it and calculated the odds for it. We probably have youtube videos already teaching the skill to others.

"Just slap it down in your hand without moving"... Yeah, like palming tricks aren't already known. *snort* If you passed unphased by the little "saltwater test" comment, let alone unaware of the knowledge how to microwave your dice into becoming fixed (but otherwise passable to the naked eye), then you have no expectation about the lengths some people will go.

If you want heart clutching terror, check out the lengths Magic the Gathering professional tournaments go in every stage of play to minimize statistical manipulation  -- and then check how they still had scandals of pro-cheating. The art of cheating is to make it look passable.

That said, novelty dice are just concert t-shirts of the gaming world. Outside of street cred and trips down memory lane, they're not for any 'real work'.

Quote from: MES;901061My thoughts on "The Dark Eye":
I am from Germany and it's the P&P RPG which is definately played the most here. Is it good?
Well... I played played 3rd and 4th edition for the most part and 4th edition was really, really complex. It gives you all kind of opportunities to roleplay a balanced character. I think that in toal you can choose from over 1000 characterclasses and race combination. I am actually not kidding. Character creation is really something that takes some time, still the game mechanics are easys once you are done with that.

The biggest plus (or surplus) that comes with The Dark Eye are the campaigns. Those are really thrilling and they come with tons of source material - if you want.
There are campaigns which come with their own fanpages and DLCs: [URL="[url="http://www.borbarad-projekt.de/"]http://www.borbarad-projekt.de/[/url]"[/URL]

I havn't played D&D so far but from what I know I tends to focus on combat. The Dark Eye however really centers around the world and involves more roleplay interaction and is not really about cleaning up a dungeon.

If 5th editions comes with the right campaigns e.g. Bloody Sea, the Borbarad Campaign, Dust and Stars, The Phileasson campaign and Year of the Griffin it is a MUST BUY!

I've heard from certain other Germans that Dark Eye is a railroady game that focuses on pretentious 'roleplay not rollplay' type gaming.

so you've heard, but not actually played.

Quote from: RPGPundit;901283I've heard from certain other Germans that Dark Eye is a railroady game that focuses on pretentious 'roleplay not rollplay' type gaming.

And it still is. MES here sounds like a run of the mill fanboi: railroady wackness incarnate. Look for his remark on D&D= combat and TDE = proper roleplaying.

But of course, I HOPE there will be an english edition of all these modules, so finally the true evil of the TDE modules will be revealed to all the world.

And in his own MES-like teuto-logic, I am the most reliable source as I have played BOTH TDE as well as D&D in all editions (except the fifth of both).

Quote from: Settembrini;901340And it still is. MES here sounds like a run of the mill fanboi: railroady wackness incarnate. Look for his remark on D&D= combat and TDE = proper roleplaying.

But of course, I HOPE there will be an english edition of all these modules, so finally the true evil of the TDE modules will be revealed to all the world.

And in his own MES-like teuto-logic, I am the most reliable source as I have played BOTH TDE as well as D&D in all editions (except the fifth of both).

Why do you get so super offended and condescending over giving my opinion about TDE adventures?
TDE is not my favoured system at all - still I played enough campaigns to know that they are anything but railroaded.
Last campaign my group played for instance was "Blutige See" which was anything but railroad, but a sandbox with high replay value due to the open scenario and if you still believe that they are railroaded you simply havn't played enough to know. Period.

https://youtu.be/L4d7CvIjNDM?t=7m58s

yah very few games are them selves railroads its the gm or group as a whole that is the railroad
but where in a system dos it say you have to fallow an adventure exactly i have yet to see it

Quote from: kosmos1214;901405yah very few games are them selves railroads its the gm or group as a whole that is the railroad
but where in a system dos it say you have to fallow an adventure exactly i have yet to see it

The fans I encountered all thought of the railroady style implied in TDA as the one true way of playing with a lot acting condescending with regard to other games. They also thought of TDA as the most professionally produced game evarrr.

I'm not saying it cannot be played in any other way, nor that it is complete crap, but there was definitely an above-average level of smugness and pretentiousness going on.