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John Wick rages against Tomb of Horrors and reveals the root of all his gaming issues

Started by Shipyard Locked, February 27, 2016, 07:27:08 AM

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Orphan81

Quote from: thedungeondelver;882068Stefan Porkony and Dwarven Forge bust a million on every KS they do.

Reaper's Bones kickstarters are down as some of the most successful KS's of all time.

Wick pulling a mio. in impresses me not in the least.

There's a big difference between pulling down a million+ for miniatures which are already an expensive game investment... and pulling in a million for an actual RPG.

Like it or not, 7th Sea currently sits as the most successful Tabletop RPG  Kickstarter of all time right now.

Edit: You can just compare the number of supporters between them too. Dwarven Forge city builder has 2k+ supporters, the vast majority of which pledged 165$+

By contrast, 7th sea still has 14 days to go and has 7K+ supporters pledging at 40-60 dollars+

You're trying to compare apples to oranges here.
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2) Don't forget to talk about things you enjoy. Don't get mired in constant negativity.

Bren

Quote from: Baulderstone;882154If I recall my old D&D lore, Spheres of Annihilation are weightless. If one is hovering inside the mouth, not touching the sides, it isn't going to move unless someone comes and moves it around using magic.
Ah. Thanks.

Is it invisible or can they see some sort of sphere floating inside the mouth?
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I just misread the title as "John Wick rages with his Tool of Horrors", which is frankly frickin' hilarious.
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Hearing about Wick's childhood explains a lot, including why he doesn't have the courage to just publish something and sell it, instead doing a Kickstarter. "Tell me you love me and I'll do anything!"

What is this thing about Americans and high school. It was decades ago, build a bridge and get over it.
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Bren

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;882167What is this thing about Americans and high school. It was decades ago, build a bridge and get over it.
1) Tell you what, I won't assume that Fosters really is Australian for beer if you don't assume everyone in the States is hung up on high school.

2) FYI: a 12 year old would either be in the last year of elementary or primary school or the first year of middle school, not high school.
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mAcular Chaotic

Quote from: Ravenswing;882151Terrific.  Now tell me the part where I, as a player, am supposed to read through the module before the DM runs it.

But let's leave that aside, and acknowledge Warthur's further comment and go on.  TOH a "thinking" module?  Please.  It's full of those "step on the wrong square/touch the wrong lever/fail to go through the exhausting iron spike etc routine at every step/die horribly" bits.  The only thinking that will help you is to reason out that the various rumors and warnings may well be on target, and never enter at all.


I assume the thinking part means treating every single square foot as if it's out to kill you, prodding it with ten foot poles, throwing around sand, pouring water onto the ground and looking for leaks that might indicate trap doors, etc.
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Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;882056You see a gigantic demon face and don't "Detect Evil?"

You detect evil and don't toss an iron spike at it and watch it disappear?

You don't "Locate Object" on the iron spike to see where it is?

You're an idiot.

If a 14 year old kid can figure that out first time, anybody can.

Wick reminds me of the dolt from California who played that module at Origins and in his write up said "Well, APPARENTLY Gygax thinks empty rooms are FUN!"

All my ears hear is waah, waah, waah.

Apparently, using "detect" spells and other divination is one of those things shitty players ignore, like charisma. From what I remember (I was also 12 when I played it) we were told about the crazy wizard building his Fortress of Fuck You and between that and watching Raiders of the Lost Ark, we were on our toes, suspected the worst and played accordingly. We lost more PCs when an NPC party tried to rob us on the way back than we did from the Tomb itself.

By the way, anyone whose PC stuck his head in the idol's mouth is a retard, pure and simple. Surely my group weren't the only kids back then who watched teen slasher movies for more than just the tits and ass in the obligatory shower/skinny-dipping scenes, right? What happens when you stick your head out of your tent, on in a window, or up a chimney?

A more honest title for that article would be Why John Wick Is The Shittiest Gamer Ever.
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Omega

Quote from: Baulderstone;882154If I recall my old D&D lore, Spheres of Annihilation are weightless. If one is hovering inside the mouth, not touching the sides, it isn't going to move unless someone comes and moves it around using magic.

In AD&D they are a literal hole in reality and stationary. Magic users could will them to move. But they might start beelining for the nearest magic user if control was lost.

Kyle Aaron

Quote from: Bren;8821701) Tell you what, I won't assume that Fosters really is Australian for beer if you don't assume everyone in the States is hung up on high school.
Other thing about Americans: no sense of humour about themselves. It's all terribly serious.
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Omega

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;882192Other thing about Americans: no sense of humour about themselves. It's all terribly serious.

That comes from not living in a country where "everything is poisonous" wasnt good enough so "lets import poison toads." was the logical solution... :eek:

Christopher Brady

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;882167What is this thing about Americans and high school. It was decades ago, build a bridge and get over it.

I wish.  I honestly wish.  But in an world where people care about stupid things the pretty people in magazines do, or who makes the most money, or what movie star is in what movie, instead of caring about the performance and all the other things that deal with so called celebrities...

NO ONE has moved past High School.  In fact, High School is how most people still live their lives until they die.  Saddens me so much.

And given how we're bitching at another celebrity, this time in our hobby, for being a fucktard, and how Skarka is STILL getting jobs, I'd say... Nope, we're stuck in the high school mentality too.
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Christopher Brady

Quote from: Elfdart;882184Apparently, using "detect" spells and other divination is one of those things shitty players ignore, like charisma. From what I remember (I was also 12 when I played it) we were told about the crazy wizard building his Fortress of Fuck You and between that and watching Raiders of the Lost Ark, we were on our toes, suspected the worst and played accordingly. We lost more PCs when an NPC party tried to rob us on the way back than we did from the Tomb itself.

So what you're saying is that you came in prepared and appropriately paranoid, because of a movie you and your friends were lucky enough to see before playing.

Where most other players came in expecting something fun and not exactly lethal from the first step in.  And did not see a movie that made them appropriately paranoid.

Gotcha.
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Spike

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;882192Other thing about Americans: no sense of humour about themselves. It's all terribly serious.

To be perfectly honest, the ONLY time I ever think about high school is when you, or another non-american, comments about how Americans are perpetually trapped in high school.

I don't even think that much about high school when I see a movie set in an actual high school.






More seriously:  it seems to me more accurate to say that Hollywood/pop culture is perpetually stuck in High School.   I don't know too many adults ranging from their mid-twenties up to nearly dead that actually ever talk about their high school experience.  The last time any adult told me about their life at that age it was a story about getting stuck on a coral reef off Fiji (or maybe Tahiti...) for several days before being rescued.  

Though I do admit he also talked about high school on Fiji (or maybe Tahiti...), as that's where he met his wife, and it was an amazing story of meeting his one true love, whom he had only just reconnected with after decades apart. Really, high school was barely mentioned except to set place.
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Omega

Quote from: Christopher Brady;882196Where most other players came in expecting something fun and not exactly lethal from the first step in.  And did not see a movie that made them appropriately paranoid.

Gotcha.

They did? Only if the DM didnt tell them what they were walking into.

By the time I finally got to see Tomb of Horrors as a player Id somehow missed all the tales of how deadly it was. I knew it was a famous dungeon low on combat, high on traps. And that was about it.

The DM though explained that it was absurdly lethal. I actually survived the Mouth trap because Id seen Roman Holiday way back and remembered the "Mouth of Truth" scene.

For the curious here is the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6af1dAc9rXo

Christopher Brady

The fact that how people were described as dying in the module with the Face Trap, and how a Sphere of Annihilation is supposed to work, tells me that a lot of deaths could have been avoided if people actually ran that encounter right.
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