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If Jessica Price was the most gorgous person in the multiverse that wouldn't make her less of a petty bitch. If a kindhearted charity worker had the face of a smashed pumpkin, it wouldn't make them any less of who they are.
That said, insulting peoples appearance is a common tactic - bugger all to do with misogeny. Is calling Kevin Smith a shriveled potato misandric? No? I guessed so.

Quote from: Horace on September 25, 2021, 02:09:42 PM

Quote from: Dapig on September 25, 2021, 11:47:14 AM
Long discussion on ENWorld.

It was ok to disparage the people she accuses but not question her motives or behavior. 

Note in the former case there were allegations...in the latter she created a record to review first hand.

I used to be an active poster on ENWorld, but I finally left the site for good earlier this year after growing tired of the leftwing politics and the one-sided moderation. People make fun of RPGnet on this site, but ENWorld is not far behind in becoming a leftwing echo chamber.

Also, first post here. Hello, everybody.

Welcome to the madness!

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on September 25, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
If Jessica Price was the most gorgous person in the multiverse that wouldn't make her less of a petty bitch. If a kindhearted charity worker had the face of a smashed pumpkin, it wouldn't make them any less of who they are.
That said, insulting peoples appearance is a common tactic - bugger all to do with misogeny. Is calling Kevin Smith a shriveled potato misandric? No? I guessed so.

Yep. I don't go there mostly because her appearance is off topic. But accusations of misogyny are so old and tired. It's almost come full circle to being quaint.

Quote from: Horace on September 25, 2021, 02:09:42 PM

Quote from: Dapig on September 25, 2021, 11:47:14 AM
Long discussion on ENWorld.

It was ok to disparage the people she accuses but not question her motives or behavior. 

Note in the former case there were allegations...in the latter she created a record to review first hand.

I used to be an active poster on ENWorld, but I finally left the site for good earlier this year after growing tired of the leftwing politics and the one-sided moderation. People make fun of RPGnet on this site, but ENWorld is not far behind in becoming a leftwing echo chamber.

Also, first post here. Hello, everybody.

Welcome!  You'll find a lot of folks here who became refugees from ENWorld and RPGNet after those placers went to hell.  (Raises hand)

Quote from: deadDMwalking on September 24, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
So now we're at 'You'd be so much prettier if you smiled'?

I am not going to defend Price. But I will defend the concept you're highlighting here: we shouldn't be judging anyone based on their appearance. Particularly on an anonymous RPG message board where everyone is too cowardly to even mention their real name much less reveal their own looks.

Also, this "if you're bad inside you look bad outside" is complete voodoo nonsense.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 25, 2021, 08:00:02 PM

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on September 25, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
If Jessica Price was the most gorgous person in the multiverse that wouldn't make her less of a petty bitch. If a kindhearted charity worker had the face of a smashed pumpkin, it wouldn't make them any less of who they are.
That said, insulting peoples appearance is a common tactic - bugger all to do with misogeny. Is calling Kevin Smith a shriveled potato misandric? No? I guessed so.

Yep. I don't go there mostly because her appearance is off topic. But accusations of misogyny are so old and tired. It's almost come full circle to being quaint.

Yeah, I would agree. Merely commenting on the physical appearance is petty and a hollow thing. But, if you've ever heard of a dude named Paul Ekman you know what I'm talking about when you can 'see' craziness in people. If you have not heard of him he's a dude who studies emotions and their relation to facial expressions. Really freaking fascinating. So in my one comment about her appearance I mentioned she looked .... off. To be honest it could have been a bad photo, we all take them after all; but tie other pictures with how we know the person acts......

Quote from: deadDMwalking on September 24, 2021, 03:54:05 PM
I don't know Jessica Price. 

But as anyone who has an ex-girlfriend knows, you can't spot crazy.  I mean, tin-foil hat or MRA shirt might give it away, but there's no sign of crazy in the photos pictured.  Making this a discussion about looks rather than behavior absolutely validates her points about misogyny in the workplace.

Oh God have mercy, so many ways to slay this tiny Goblin and yet it's offtopic...

She's SHOWN by her words/actions that she's not crazy, she's batshit insane you moron.

Quote from: Mistwell on September 26, 2021, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: deadDMwalking on September 24, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
So now we're at 'You'd be so much prettier if you smiled'?

I am not going to defend Price. But I will defend the concept you're highlighting here: we shouldn't be judging anyone based on their appearance. Particularly on an anonymous RPG message board where everyone is too cowardly to even mention their real name much less reveal their own looks.

Also, this "if you're bad inside you look bad outside" is complete voodoo nonsense.

You do realize no one mentioned her appearance, until I did, and only as an offhand remark* for the vast majority of the thread. She has had MANY threads on many forums speaking to her history of actions. It requires zero substantiation to anyone here or anywhere else that she is a bad person with disingenuous motives in her public interactions and clearly her private work-related ones.

* Now about The Appearance remark - it was a simple allusion to the material fact females of her ilk (the Geek Clout chasing variety) that utilize their appearance and gender-reality to finagle their way into the orbit of power from weak beta males in the industry. This phenomenon is well established - see: Male Feminists Sex Offenders list. *I* am not crapping on her about her appearance. I'm perfectly adult enough to talk about it publicly when it comes to standards. I don't personally give a fuck about people saying "that's sexist" to men or women discussing what's attractive about the other sex. That's not sexist - that's reality. Precisely no one here is saying that women need to "smile" or women can't be game developers, that's pure strawman bullshit.

I merely pointed out she was cute, which is a diverging point between implying that I'm pretty confident that she leverages that as necessary in her profession with specific companies filled with the very men that would be naturally affected and have proven to be weak in this regard to that dynamic. If you think that has no bearing on how she was hired by these companies notorious for their "issues" then you're the one with blinders on.

That others post some unflattering picture of her - which in jest, okay, it's unflattering, who cares - then you and others focus in on it as some issue of contention? Look, no one really gives a crap. This is like complaining that you shouldn't gripe about the Somali Pirate that took shots at your passing ship because that would be "racist".

Keep things in perspective.

Jessica Price at conventions is like your very average female soldier whilst deployed--the more uncommon the resource the more valuable it becomes.

And based on that picture she isn't that bad looking anyway. I guess you lot have standards 100x higher than mine.

Quote from: horsesoldier on September 27, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
Jessica Price at conventions is like your very average female soldier whilst deployed--the more uncommon the resource the more valuable it becomes.

And based on that picture she isn't that bad looking anyway. I guess you lot have standards 100x higher than mine.

Well, my standards do include 'not being a sociopath with NPD'.

Quote from: tenbones on September 27, 2021, 10:23:57 AM

Quote from: Mistwell on September 26, 2021, 11:46:47 AM

Quote from: deadDMwalking on September 24, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
So now we're at 'You'd be so much prettier if you smiled'?

I am not going to defend Price. But I will defend the concept you're highlighting here: we shouldn't be judging anyone based on their appearance. Particularly on an anonymous RPG message board where everyone is too cowardly to even mention their real name much less reveal their own looks.

Also, this "if you're bad inside you look bad outside" is complete voodoo nonsense.

You do realize no one mentioned her appearance, until I did, and only as an offhand remark* for the vast majority of the thread. She has had MANY threads on many forums speaking to her history of actions. It requires zero substantiation to anyone here or anywhere else that she is a bad person with disingenuous motives in her public interactions and clearly her private work-related ones.

I absolutely 100% agree. If you have mistaken me for someone who is defending Jessica Price, let me correct you. You and I are on the same side concerning Jessica Price's behavior, and I pointed it out in this thread as well. I am just saying I am not going to join in on her or anyone's looks.

Fair enough!

Quote from: Ghostmaker on September 27, 2021, 01:04:06 PM

Quote from: horsesoldier on September 27, 2021, 12:55:41 PM
Jessica Price at conventions is like your very average female soldier whilst deployed--the more uncommon the resource the more valuable it becomes.

And based on that picture she isn't that bad looking anyway. I guess you lot have standards 100x higher than mine.

Well, my standards do include 'not being a sociopath with NPD'.

Oh, sure, agreed there. I was strictly speaking to how she looked, not how she acted. And despite the claim made previously she does have the look of a crazy person. I imagine one doesn't have to spend much time with her to perceive a disconnect with reality.

Regarding appearance and how that reflects something else:  It's not an always thing.  Some people are vastly more attractive when they smile versus when they don't, while with others it doesn't make a lot of difference.  Of course the results are in the eye of the beholder.  Of the ones where it does make a difference, a habit of frowning, smirking, or otherwise keeping an unpleasant look can move the needle notably over time.

It is, however, an open question of how much this works the other way.  That is, when someone is a narcissistic sociopath, and you know it, it is unlikely for that person to appear attractive to you, either subjectively or even semi-objectively.  If nothing else, whatever flaws they may have in that department are likely to stand out, even if they didn't before. It's extremely difficult to think of someone as attractive when you can hear the ugly coming out of their mouth, nonstop.