Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM



To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Quote from: jeff37923 on September 19, 2021, 08:16:06 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM



To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Yeah, you're a dumbass.



The guy on the right is Anthony Pierpont. He's shown here at a neo-nazi concert. Pierpont, who is obviously not white, owned Panzerfaust Records, which was, for a time, one of the largest, if not the largest and most successful "white power" record labels in the country. There was considerable debate even then (1998-2005) about whether Pierpont was actually white. He had his defenders in that scene, but he also had his detractors, and many were quick to point out that he always had a very good "tan". None of that, however, kept him or his label from being successful. Pierpont himself was outspoken about his racist views, and support for neo-nazi ideology. Pierpont, who was adopted, was eventually made persona non grata in WN circles after someone found a copy of his birth certificate, which showed, unsurprisingly, that he had been born in Mexico to Mexican parents.

Or how about a Jewish Nazi? Dan Burros was a high ranking member of the American Nazi Party, who committed suicide in 1965 after a newspaper reporter revealed Burros' Jewish heritage.

It's not just people of color who become unlikely nazis. Nicky Crane was a well-known and well-connected British skinhead, with a reputation as a fearsome and capable brawler. In the 80s, he associated closely with Skrewdriver, one of the biggest skinhead bands of all time. He committed many violent attacks, even serving a 4-year prison sentence as the result of one. He came out as gay in the early 90s, which apparently shocked his racist comrades, even though Crane had appeared in gay porn and  marched in a 1986 gay pride parade in London, all while still an active member of the neo-nazi movement.

This whole idea that someone is "exempt" from being racist because of their color, creed or orientation is BS, and some hate groups even use this "tokenism" as cover.

Edit: there's also "Bianca Trump", former porn actress (real name Wendy Iwanow) a buxom, brown-skinned beauty once billed as "The Latin Princess of Porn", who reinvented herself as a tattoo artist and neo-nazi. She was busted on outstanding warrants in the company of a well-known (in that milieu) racist "Pastor".

There are bound to be more, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head, and you get the idea...

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Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM



To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Yeah, you're a dumbass.



The guy on the right is Anthony Pierpont. He's shown here at a neo-nazi concert. Pierpont, who is obviously not white, owned Panzerfaust Records, which was, for a time, one of the largest, if not the largest and most successful "white power" record labels in the country. There was considerable debate even then (1998-2005) about whether Pierpont was actually white. He had his defenders in that scene, but he also had his detractors, and many were quick to point out that he always had a very good "tan". None of that, however, kept him or his label from being successful. Pierpont himself was outspoken about his racist views, and support for neo-nazi ideology. Pierpont, who was adopted, was eventually made persona non grata in WN circles after someone found a copy of his birth certificate, which showed, unsurprisingly, that he had been born in Mexico to Mexican parents.

Or how about a Jewish Nazi? Dan Burros was a high ranking member of the American Nazi Party, who committed suicide in 1965 after a newspaper reporter revealed Burros' Jewish heritage.

It's not just people of color who become unlikely nazis. Nicky Crane was a well-known and well-connected British skinhead, with a reputation as a fearsome and capable brawler. In the 80s, he associated closely with Skrewdriver, one of the biggest skinhead bands of all time. He committed many violent attacks, even serving a 4-year prison sentence as the result of one. He came out as gay in the early 90s, which apparently shocked his racist comrades, even though Crane had appeared in gay porn and  marched in a 1986 gay pride parade in London, all while still an active member of the neo-nazi movement.

This whole idea that someone is "exempt" from being racist because of their color, creed or orientation is BS, and some hate groups even use this "tokenism" as cover.

Edit: there's also "Bianca Trump", former porn actress (real name Wendy Iwanow) a buxom, brown-skinned beauty once billed as "The Latin Princess of Porn", who reinvented herself as a tattoo artist and neo-nazi. She was busted on outstanding warrants in the company of a well-known (in that milieu) racist "Pastor".

There are bound to be more, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head, and you get the idea...

Lets take it one at a time:

Anthony Pierpont:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2005/panzerfaust-collapses-amid-aryan-purity-debate

Sorry, but mexican born doesn't mean brown you racist.

Dan Burros:


Looks mighty white to me, because being Jew doesn't make you a "person of color".

Nicky Crane


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Trump

So you're an imbecile yet again.

This is just a super depressing thread. I went to Gen Con back around 2006 or 2007, and I would have liked to go back again if the chance arose. But not now. They just seem like a super hostile environment.

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When actual white nationalists, including a murderer with racist motives, started using it unironically, it stopped being "a joke".

White nationalists breath, drink water, eat, shit and use mass transport too.

And they do it "unironically".

So, you consider the activities you listed as equal to *checks notes* flashing racist symbols? Interesting...

So you consider anything 4chan says it's a racist symbol to be one? Interesting...

And by interesting I mean how stupid of you.

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Yeah. Nobody knows about how Pepe the frog was appropriated by conservative and white nationalist groups to troll the internet. Why would anyone mistake a Pepe the frog cartoon as conservative anti-woke symbol? Such a HUGE mystery. Man, these people are truly over-reacting... [/sarcasm]

It was a masterful troll, because everyone has used the OK symbol at one point or another. That was the point.



Next you'll be telling us that drinking milk is a symbol of white supremacy.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milk-white-supremacy-racism_n_5bffad35e4b0864f4f6a3e28

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

From what I can tell, it's an intentional mockery of the gullibility of people seeing racism in an OK gesture.

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/6377012/bami1020

If indeed is merely gullibility and not something more malicious and willfully deceptive, aka an attempt at libel/slander.

Could be some from column A and some from column B.

You have people like Tubesnake who see raycissts EVERYWHERE.

And then you have people who deliberately use such hysteria to further whatever plans they have.

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Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM



To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Yeah, you're a dumbass.



The guy on the right is Anthony Pierpont. He's shown here at a neo-nazi concert. Pierpont, who is obviously not white, owned Panzerfaust Records, which was, for a time, one of the largest, if not the largest and most successful "white power" record labels in the country. There was considerable debate even then (1998-2005) about whether Pierpont was actually white. He had his defenders in that scene, but he also had his detractors, and many were quick to point out that he always had a very good "tan". None of that, however, kept him or his label from being successful. Pierpont himself was outspoken about his racist views, and support for neo-nazi ideology. Pierpont, who was adopted, was eventually made persona non grata in WN circles after someone found a copy of his birth certificate, which showed, unsurprisingly, that he had been born in Mexico to Mexican parents.

Or how about a Jewish Nazi? Dan Burros was a high ranking member of the American Nazi Party, who committed suicide in 1965 after a newspaper reporter revealed Burros' Jewish heritage.

It's not just people of color who become unlikely nazis. Nicky Crane was a well-known and well-connected British skinhead, with a reputation as a fearsome and capable brawler. In the 80s, he associated closely with Skrewdriver, one of the biggest skinhead bands of all time. He committed many violent attacks, even serving a 4-year prison sentence as the result of one. He came out as gay in the early 90s, which apparently shocked his racist comrades, even though Crane had appeared in gay porn and  marched in a 1986 gay pride parade in London, all while still an active member of the neo-nazi movement.

This whole idea that someone is "exempt" from being racist because of their color, creed or orientation is BS, and some hate groups even use this "tokenism" as cover.

Edit: there's also "Bianca Trump", former porn actress (real name Wendy Iwanow) a buxom, brown-skinned beauty once billed as "The Latin Princess of Porn", who reinvented herself as a tattoo artist and neo-nazi. She was busted on outstanding warrants in the company of a well-known (in that milieu) racist "Pastor".

There are bound to be more, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head, and you get the idea...

So, you are trying to atone for your racist past, eh?  Because I'm pretty sure you are the only person on this board who knows who the hell any of those people are.  Either you are a former racist (there's no one so against drinking as a former alcoholic)  or you are obsessed with them.  Only the dog can hear the dogwhistle...

I do not apologize to the Portuguese for my ancestors eating Magellan. If anything, I owe them a debt of gratitude for introducing lungo porco preto to my diet. Delicious.

Quote from: tenbones on September 20, 2021, 11:07:15 AM
I do not apologize to the Portuguese for my ancestors eating Magellan. If anything, I owe them a debt of gratitude for introducing lungo porco preto to my diet. Delicious.

LOL, in barbecue if I remember correctly?

Here' as far as I know, no spanish was eaten, but plenty of other tribes got eaten by the Aztecs... In Pozole.

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I do not apologize to the Portuguese for my ancestors eating Magellan. If anything, I owe them a debt of gratitude for introducing lungo porco preto to my diet. Delicious.

LOL, in barbecue if I remember correctly?

Here' as far as I know, no spanish was eaten, but plenty of other tribes got eaten by the Aztecs... In Pozole.

The Philippines mastery of cooking pork is not well known outside of foodie circles. I SUSPECT it was introduced by the Spanish (which is not coincidentally why you and I are probably distant cousins - we're the Island incarnation of Mexico, you'd be surprised how many Filipinos in metro-Manila speak Spanish). But once pigs were introduced... holy shit, filipinos done gone wild.

This is why I'm considering running for office here in Texas. I'll get the rural and 2A vote by solving the illegal immigration problem as well as the runaway wild-pig problem. I'll import filipinos to hunt down all the pigs and humans (ethnic origin is irrelevant as that just means different flavors) and we'll consume them all.

Naturally 2A would be something to gather around to help make things more efficient. But we can always go back to blowguns, javelins and combat yo-yo's if we have to. That's modern efficiency - 3 major problems solved at once.

I *highly* recommend if anyone gets the chance to partake of Filipino Lechon. It's fire roasted spitted pork... and it's *droooool* delicious.

https://youtu.be/w0PXewqhaGk

I think Magellan was cooked like that. That's what I heard.

Honestly as it pertains to GenCon - their management puts them on the Red List.

I wouldn't give them a dollar of mine. I'd rather support VengerCon or any other convention that actually wants to put gaming ahead of political bullshit.

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To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Yeah, you're a dumbass.



The guy on the right is Anthony Pierpont. He's shown here at a neo-nazi concert. Pierpont, who is obviously not white, owned Panzerfaust Records, which was, for a time, one of the largest, if not the largest and most successful "white power" record labels in the country. There was considerable debate even then (1998-2005) about whether Pierpont was actually white. He had his defenders in that scene, but he also had his detractors, and many were quick to point out that he always had a very good "tan". None of that, however, kept him or his label from being successful. Pierpont himself was outspoken about his racist views, and support for neo-nazi ideology. Pierpont, who was adopted, was eventually made persona non grata in WN circles after someone found a copy of his birth certificate, which showed, unsurprisingly, that he had been born in Mexico to Mexican parents.

Or how about a Jewish Nazi? Dan Burros was a high ranking member of the American Nazi Party, who committed suicide in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Felton1965 after a newspaper reporter revealed Burros' Jewish heritage.

It's not just people of color who become unlikely nazis. Nicky Crane was a well-known and well-connected British skinhead, with a reputation as a fearsome and capable brawler. In the 80s, he associated closely with Skrewdriver, one of the biggest skinhead bands of all time. He committed many violent attacks, even serving a 4-year prison sentence as the result of one. He came out as gay in the early 90s, which apparently shocked his racist comrades, even though Crane had appeared in gay porn and  marched in a 1986 gay pride parade in London, all while still an active member of the neo-nazi movement.

This whole idea that someone is "exempt" from being racist because of their color, creed or orientation is BS, and some hate groups even use this "tokenism" as cover.

Edit: there's also "Bianca Trump", former porn actress (real name Wendy Iwanow) a buxom, brown-skinned beauty once billed as "The Latin Princess of Porn", who reinvented herself as a tattoo artist and neo-nazi. She was busted on outstanding warrants in the company of a well-known (in that milieu) racist "Pastor".

There are bound to be more, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head, and you get the idea...

So, you are trying to atone for your racist past, eh?  Because I'm pretty sure you are the only person on this board who knows who the hell any of those people are.  Either you are a former racist (there's no one so against drinking as a former alcoholic)  or you are obsessed with them.  Only the dog can hear the dogwhistle...

By this logic, all homicide detectives are murderers. Or "true crime" enthusiasts. All those reddit threads, just filled with murderers, why haven't the cops arrested them? You're a fuckin' idiot. You are aware that there are entire organizations, such as the SPLC, ADL and numerous antifascist organizations and accounts on social media who make it their mission to catalog racist activity, and doxx these people?

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To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on September 19, 2021, 08:26:08 PM

Quote from: Tubesock Army on September 19, 2021, 07:15:21 PM

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.

Quote from: DM_Curt on September 19, 2021, 06:06:14 PM
Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

Anthony pierpont prison photo
To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...

Yeah, you're a dumbass.



The guy on the right is Anthony Pierpont. He's shown here at a neo-nazi concert. Pierpont, who is obviously not white, owned Panzerfaust Records, which was, for a time, one of the largest, if not the largest and most successful "white power" record labels in the country. There was considerable debate even then (1998-2005) about whether Pierpont was actually white. He had his defenders in that scene, but he also had his detractors, and many were quick to point out that he always had a very good "tan". None of that, however, kept him or his label from being successful. Pierpont himself was outspoken about his racist views, and support for neo-nazi ideology. Pierpont, who was adopted, was eventually made persona non grata in WN circles after someone found a copy of his birth certificate, which showed, unsurprisingly, that he had been born in Mexico to Mexican parents.

Or how about a Jewish Nazi? Dan Burros was a high ranking member of the American Nazi Party, who committed suicide in 1965 after a newspaper reporter revealed Burros' Jewish heritage.

It's not just people of color who become unlikely nazis. Nicky Crane was a well-known and well-connected British skinhead, with a reputation as a fearsome and capable brawler. In the 80s, he associated closely with Skrewdriver, one of the biggest skinhead bands of all time. He committed many violent attacks, even serving a 4-year prison sentence as the result of one. He came out as gay in the early 90s, which apparently shocked his racist comrades, even though Crane had appeared in gay porn and  marched in a 1986 gay pride parade in London, all while still an active member of the neo-nazi movement.

This whole idea that someone is "exempt" from being racist because of their color, creed or orientation is BS, and some hate groups even use this "tokenism" as cover.

Edit: there's also "Bianca Trump", former porn actress (real name Wendy Iwanow) a buxom, brown-skinned beauty once billed as "The Latin Princess of Porn", who reinvented herself as a tattoo artist and neo-nazi. She was busted on outstanding warrants in the company of a well-known (in that milieu) racist "Pastor".

There are bound to be more, these are just the ones I know off the top of my head, and you get the idea...

Lets take it one at a time:

Anthony Pierpont:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2005/panzerfaust-collapses-amid-aryan-purity-debate

Sorry, but mexican born doesn't mean brown you racist.

Dan Burros:


Looks mighty white to me, because being Jew doesn't make you a "person of color".

Nicky Crane


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca_Trump

So you're an imbecile yet again.

I honestly can't tell if you're being deliberately obtuse, or if you're just this fucking stupid. I'm leaning towards "stupid".

Pierpont is, by his own admission, and obviously to anyone with a set of eyes, not white. I don't know why you're so wedded to the narrative that only whites are capable of hatemongering. Is it because you just can't stand to be proven wrong on the internet? Get over yourself.

Obviously Dan Burros was "white", but that doesn't change the fact that a Jewish nazi makes about as much sense as a hispanic Skinhead. Yet, there they were. Nicky Crane was included because, as a gay man, he would not have been allowed to openly be who he was in neo-nazi circles, yet there he was.

Wendy Woronow may be an edge case, but she is at the very least Italian, and Italians are not considered white by many neo-nazis. None of this undermines or disproves my point that non-white people can, do and have joined and/or supported neo-nazi organizations. Not sure what kind of "gotcha" you think you've achieved here, or what point you're trying to make. You just seem dumb.

Since you seem especially dense, and may need things repeated to you multiple times, read the Wikipedia entry for Leo Felton, half-black neo-nazi organizer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Felton

How about Jack Van Tongeren, Australian neo-nazi of partially Asian descent known for specifically targeting Asians with hate crimes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_van_Tongeren

Do you have a humiliation fetish or something? Because man, it seems like you REALLY enjoy being proven wrong. I don't know why you're so opposed to the acknowledging the reality that white supremacy movements attract mentally ill losers, but it's a fact. Hate to break it to you.

Edit: there are other white nationalists who have been outed as Jews as well, but you get the idea (I hope)...