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Jeff Bergen of The Gaming Goat escorted from Gencon

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Spinachcat:

--- Quote from: Melan on September 15, 2021, 04:03:57 PM ---Am I to understand that you can now rent a stand at GenCon, then get thrown out (without a refund?) due to an Internet-based hate campaign?

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Yes. GenCon controls GenCon. Much like Master Blaster and Bartertown in Mad Max, and yes GenCon can be dealt with the same way.


--- Quote from: Melan on September 15, 2021, 04:03:57 PM --- How is that not breach of contract?
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Probably not because I've heard from multiple vendors over the years how draconian the GenCon vendor agreements have become because they know how GenCon can make or break a game company.


--- Quote from: Melan on September 15, 2021, 04:03:57 PM ---How can you do business with GenCon after one similar event?
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Anyone who does business with GenCon either supports the SJW bullshit (and imagines they can't ever be cancelled), or is just trying to sell games and hopes they don't get cancelled. Both are just playing roulette.


--- Quote from: Melan on September 15, 2021, 04:03:57 PM ---Would you invest your time and money in participating?
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Fuck no.

Tubesock Army:
Bergren is apparently still a a member of GAMA, as is his associate Jon Del-Arroz, a writer known for having made some controversial statements. This was discovered recently, and GAMA has suspended both men for 28 days, pending review and discussions with legal:

https://twitter.com/TheGAMAOnline/status/1521942891173720065

hedgehobbit:

--- Quote from: Tubesock Army on May 05, 2022, 12:47:42 PM ---Bergren is apparently still a a member of GAMA, as is his associate Jon Del-Arroz, a writer known for having made some controversial statements.
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Here is the tweet that, according to GAMA, constitutes "Hate speech and bullying"

GeekyBugle:
Okay, I'm not doing the guilt by association here okay?

Back in the #ComicsGate days Vox Day and Jon del Arroz tried to insert themselves and co-opt the thing, we nerds kicked them both out.

Why? You might ask. Well, for those of you who haven't had the pleasure of dealing with Vox Day he's a honest go God member of the Alt-Right, and (unless he has denounced them?) so was Jon del Arroz. Arguing with the latter about why I didn't want anything to do with them I told him I was too white for the SJWs and not white enough for the Alt-Right. Jon told me they did consider me to be white.

Pay close attention, he didn't deny his association with them, he told me the Alt-Right considered me to be white.

So Jon hasn't made some controversial statements, he is (or was) a full on white supremacist.

This doesn't make whoever associates with him one too.

That's all I have to say about this subject.

hedgehobbit:

--- Quote from: GeekyBugle on May 05, 2022, 03:18:24 PM ---Why? You might ask. Well, for those of you who haven't had the pleasure of dealing with Vox Day he's a honest go God member of the Alt-Right, and (unless he has denounced them?) so was Jon del Arroz. Arguing with the latter about why I didn't want anything to do with them I told him I was too white for the SJWs and not white enough for the Alt-Right. Jon told me they did consider me to be white.

Pay close attention, he didn't deny his association with them, he told me the Alt-Right considered me to be white.
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Or JDA just doesn't play the "If you don't denounce whoever I tell you to denounce then you support them 100%" bullshit. JDA has said dozens of times that while he and Vox are business partners and personal friends, they don't share the same political positions. I mean, that used the be the norm but now it is verboten.

Also, Worldcon called JDA a "racist" and JDA sued them for defamation. Worldcon ended up issuing an apology and paying him damages.

https://sfsfc.org/worldcon-76-sfsfc-and-jon-del-arroz-settle-suit/


Of course, the SJWs have learned their lesson and now use totally subjective terms like "bullying" and "harassing" to ban people.

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