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It's absolutely insane how suppressive most TTRPG communities have become

Started by Monero, January 01, 2023, 11:02:49 AM

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Thor's Nads

Quote from: I on February 05, 2023, 02:07:56 PM
I ordered all of the Jack Chick pamphlets so could read them and laugh at them.  I still have my collection.  A relative actually had me a custom-made T-shirt of one of Chick's pamphlet covers.  It got me a lot of nice compliments.

Hot take: his comics are pretty good and not badly drawn. He did some actual comic books too and if he'd just toned down the fundamentalism a bit they had some decent stories. The only way I could describe them is they were these GI Joe missionaries battling satanism in other countries and saving people.
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Grognard GM

Quote from: Thor's Nads on February 06, 2023, 04:14:32 AM
Quote from: I on February 05, 2023, 02:07:56 PM
I ordered all of the Jack Chick pamphlets so could read them and laugh at them.  I still have my collection.  A relative actually had me a custom-made T-shirt of one of Chick's pamphlet covers.  It got me a lot of nice compliments.

Hot take: his comics are pretty good and not badly drawn. He did some actual comic books too and if he'd just toned down the fundamentalism a bit they had some decent stories. The only way I could describe them is they were these GI Joe missionaries battling satanism in other countries and saving people.

There has to be an alternate universe where jack Chick drew Bibleman comicbook adaptions.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Omega

Quote from: Grognard GM on February 05, 2023, 01:31:17 PMpolice investigations, and a few shows where a police detective or teacher finds a gaming miniature or rulebook and acts like he just found a serial killer confession.

Come on, man.

As of the early 2000s our local big city police were still reffing an anti D&D pamphlet meant to "detect" satanic cults at crime scenes. By looking for D&D and RPG material.

Opaopajr

Quote from: David Johansen on February 05, 2023, 08:35:22 PM
One of the guys who games at my store got kicked out of the place he was living for playing D&D this week, no joke.  It's a bit of an odd case, social services foster kid who was living in the bushes of the river valley having turned 18 when he first started coming in to game.  Anyhow, the government agencies got him into university but he bombed out in the first semester due to family problems and turned to religion.  He's had quite the life but lately he was unemployed and living with a family that he met at church but when they found out he was into D&D they threw him out for 'not respecting their values.'  And while that's fine, we certainly shouldn't expect people to provide free room and board for people they don't like after all.  Even so, the Satanic Panic still has deep roots in religious communities.

:( This story makes me sad. I hope he finds a home and can rebuild his life into something with which he is content.  :) Also sending prayers... one's that are not afraid of D&D.
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Opaopajr

Quote from: Omega on February 06, 2023, 06:11:08 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on February 05, 2023, 01:31:17 PMpolice investigations, and a few shows where a police detective or teacher finds a gaming miniature or rulebook and acts like he just found a serial killer confession.

Come on, man.

As of the early 2000s our local big city police were still reffing an anti D&D pamphlet meant to "detect" satanic cults at crime scenes. By looking for D&D and RPG material.

:o Oh dear, I am not fully surprised, just disappointed. My gaming pyramid tm must have looked to their "CSI" unit like the pleasure island of Caligula. /hides my beanie babies covering my Monster Manual
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

jeff37923

Quote from: Cathode Ray on February 05, 2023, 01:55:26 PM
I'm glad someone mentioned Jack Chick, because he was the originator of the Satanic Panic, and he by far didn't represent all or even the vast majority of Christians.  Jack attacked my church and most other Christian denominations as vehemently as he did D&D players.  So I'm glad that the one poster somewhat backtracked his blanket statement, changing his tune to not blame all of Christianity now.  Most atheists are comfortable enough in their beliefs that they don't have to put down entire religions in broad stereotypes.

As it keeps coming up, I direct ya'lls attention to The Pulling Report by Michael Stackpole

http://www.rpgstudies.net/stackpole/pulling_report.html

QuoteIntroduction

Patricia Pulling is a woman known for having mounted a brave campaign against the diabolical forces that have been unleashed in America today. A licensed private Investigator, she is the founder of Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons and the author of The Devil's Web. She has been hired as an expert in gaming for murder trials in Missouri, Oklahoma and North Carolina. She has appeared on 60 Minutes, Geraldo and on numerous radio programs, like the nationally syndicated "Jim Bohannon Show."

Her courage in the face of the Satanic conspiracy is nothing short of amazing. The dogged tirelessness that allows her to go on lecture tours, write books and edit newsletters is incredible. Her willingness to help the police investigate cult crimes and her uncompromising drive to publicize the dangers of Satanism are unquestionably seen as noble and civic minded.

Within the community of "Cult Crime" investigators, she has become a figure of mythic proportion.

Unfortunately for Mrs. Pulling – as with most myths – the kernel of truth around which the legend has been built is no where near as attractive as the myth. As will be shown in this report, which cuts through the blue smoke and mirrors surrounding her crusade, Mrs. Pulling is hardly the appropriate person to be given responsibility in crime investigations. In her pursuit of a grand Satanic conspiracy – the same one she ultimately holds responsible for the suicide death of her son – she has engaged in unethical and illegal practices. Her methods and tactics, at their very best, taint any evidence she might offer and, at their worst, construct a monster where none exists.

This report, while hardly exhaustive, provides a catalog of things Mrs. Pulling has done to produce evidence of everything from murderous toys to a worldwide Satanic conspiracy that contains in it one out of every twelve citizens of Richmond, Virginia. The majority of this information deals with her early assault on the games upon which she blames her son's death. The rest of it has been developed through study of her occult investigations and the other individuals with whom she works and associates in the anti-Satanism movement.


There is quite a bit more, but it exceeds the 40,000 character limit of posts and I have to get to work. It is well worth the time to read.
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David Johansen

Quote from: Opaopajr on February 06, 2023, 06:34:19 AM

:( This story makes me sad. I hope he finds a home and can rebuild his life into something with which he is content.  :) Also sending prayers... one's that are not afraid of D&D.

Thanks, it's a sad story.  But it illustrates that the satanic panic is still hurting people.  I'm hoping they'll finally get him on Alberta's very generous income support for the severely handicapped program.  I'd be happier if he could keep a job but it doesn't seem likely.
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