Quote from: Christopher Brady;892782*Takes the gas can from Tenbones*  Stop that.

BUUURN BABY!!! BURN!!!!ingchrome... BUUUURN!!

Quote from: tenbones;892778LOL but will it still be cyberpunk!?!?!?!

It won't be a cyberpunk roleplaying game, because it won't even BE a roleplaying game.

YOUR ARGUMENT IS MOOT.

Quote from: Celestial;892700Shadowrun is getting a new edition called Shadowrun Anarchy by the end of the year, but from all accounts it will be a narrative storygame version of Shadowrun.  Rules are supposed to only be about 40 pages, and rumor is that there will be no GM at all.

Link to the petty purple.

Normally I try not to link to RPGNet threads on here, but since Celestial is just posting some random crap that some fans over on RPGNet said with no basis whatsoever, I figure it might be useful to link to someone who actually knows what they're talking about directly contradicting him.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;892807Link to the petty purple.

Normally I try not to link to RPGNet threads on here, but since Celestial is just posting some random crap that some fans over on RPGNet said with no basis whatsoever, I figure it might be useful to link to someone who actually knows what they're talking about directly contradicting him.

And for those of us who are banned from the place?  Can we get a synopsis or something?

Quote from: Daddy Warpig;892764At least all the debates will be over: THIS will be the shittiest edition of Shadowrun ever.

Thought that was the action figure edition? :jaw-dropping:

No. Im not joking. It was real and in stores. 150mm (6in) action figure game via WizKids.



To be fair they were well made figures and pretty articulate. But it never caught on.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;892828And for those of us who are banned from the place?  Can we get a synopsis or something?

Weird link. This is what the link read.

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Jason's a busy dude so I promised him I wouldn't toss any more questions his way, but (just speaking for myself, here), it likely won't be for official SRM events, no.  Right now, Anarchy is being built where a GM can take a Mission, run some quick numbers, and turn all their NPCs into Anarchy-appropriate (and then, voila, run a Mission with Anarchy!), but not so much so that you can run Anarchy and SR5 at the same time, at a mixed table.  Unless we have some mega awesome breakthrough during playtesting or something, they won't quite be that level of compatible.  

I don't wanna say "hard no," because -- again -- maybe we'll stumble across a really elegant way to do it, but with what we've done so far...that's not quite what we're shooting for.

Quote from: tenbones;892778LOL but will it still be cyberpunk!?!?!?!

Narrativispunk obviously. :cool:

Quote from: RPGPundit;892560RIFTS has had a single game system for nearly 30 years now, and while parts of it are cumbersome it's clearly served the game well.

Shadowrun has gone through four (or is it 5) editions now, and every single one has been crap. Buckets of Dice, stupid subsystems, and UTTERLY Appalling character creation ("here's 400 points, and now here's 50 different things you can put those points into. Good luck over the next 8 hours while you try to decide what to make your character, newb, though it doesn't really matter at all since the guy who knows all the tricks to game the system will have a character a thousand times better than yours").

If I have to decide between systems, there's no contest. The Palladium system, warts and all, is better by a thousand fold than ANY game that ever called itself 'shadowrun'.

well i cant speak for every edition but i know 3e was a priority system not a true point buy.
and that i figured it out and made my 1st pc in an hour or so thats with no help and my 1st time reading the book

Quote from: Daddy Warpig;892764At least all the debates will be over: THIS will be the shittiest edition of Shadowrun ever.

yep

Quote from: Christopher Brady;892828And for those of us who are banned from the place?  Can we get a synopsis or something?

yah that link is weird

3rd edition took a long time too because of all the gear.  No where near as bad as 4th edition but it wasn't a smooth process for the technology based characters.

Quote from: KingCheops;8933663rd edition took a long time too because of all the gear.  No where near as bad as 4th edition but it wasn't a smooth process for the technology based characters.

ahhh that might explain it i made a mage hermetic and like i said in hour or so at the 1st crack .

and welcome to the rpg site

Quote from: kosmos1214;893370ahhh that might explain it i made a mage hermetic and like i said in hour or so at the 1st crack .

Yeah not quite as straightforward as a Shaman but pretty darn close.  Mages are pretty easy to make unless you mess around with focuses.  Hilariously 4th even managed to complicate basic spellcasters.

I really wish that Third Edition was still in print, or there were at least better quality PDFs.

Quote from: Celestial;893378I really wish that Third Edition was still in print, or there were at least better quality PDFs.

me to

Quote from: KingCheops;893374Yeah not quite as straightforward as a Shaman but pretty darn close.  Mages are pretty easy to make unless you mess around with focuses.  Hilariously 4th even managed to complicate basic spellcasters.

that explains it so the cyber sets that much worse? it it all the essence calculating ?

It's a new option, not a new edition, FWIW, it's not nearly as narrative as plenty of games out there, and this is the first I've heard we won't have GMs.

If y'all want to ask me stuff, instead of sharing rumors (and then just finding stuff I posted somewhere else), I'm right here.

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that explains it so the cyber sets that much worse? it it all the essence calculating ?

Yeah pretty much.  You're trying to balance 2 numbers -- Essence and nuyen.  Although I'd say that street samurai are easier than other technical characters.  After your wires there's not usually much Essence or money left.  It's a weird bell curve where it doesn't take long when you first build one because you have no idea what you're doing so you just randomly grab useful looking stuff.  As  you get to know the system better it takes longer as you're trying to eke out that extra edge.  Once you master it things get easy again because you know it all.

Things get really fiddly with gear and whatnot.  Riggers and Deckers have it the worst.  If you think people hand waved and ignored decking you should see what happened with Electronic Warfare.  There's like 3 or 4 subsystems for all the different components of EW (not counting the MIJI system in Rigger 3) plus the Flux rules on top of that.  No one ever bothered -- just roll Electronics and let me know what you get.  Okay sounds good you listen in to their radio/intercept their drones.