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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2020, 06:16:57 AM »
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Which has nothing to do with the point I'm challenging, does it?
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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2020, 10:35:38 AM »
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Greetings!

Sureshot, I think it helps to see Pundit as having a sense of humour. Of course there's no comparison, and it is something of a ridiculous comparison at that. Isn't that ok, though? Part of Pundit's appeal is his humour, his sometimes over-the-top titles and framing and so forth.

*shrugs* I laughed with Pundit about it. His main discussion points are about the toxicity of Twitter.

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If it was anyone else I might think it was a joke. Knowing Pundit and his view. He seriously might think that D&D Twitter is worse than a fatal disease.

He is not doing himself any favors with trying to get more subscribers. I'm not politically correct by any means yet review games and get over the fact that D&D Twitter is not the place for him. I'm pretty sure we will probably see in a few months Story Games are worse than Stage 4 Cancer or something similar.

It stops being funny when the person posting topics uses the same posting tactic over and over.
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2020, 12:10:58 PM »
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In regards to DnDTwitter, can someone link or post tweets that give us a feel for why its a total dumpster fire?

Outside of meme compilations, everything I've seen on Twitter has been a laughable dumpster fire so I'm unsure what makes the DnDTwitter world even worse.

I can think of one. Ever heard of Zweihander? The guy in charge of the Twitter handle for it is a good indication of how much of a dumpster fire it is. The ones supporting his behavior in the comments below this tweet are much worse.

https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1235562042116931585

Also, when OneAngryGamer covered what that company was doing, a bunch of TTRPG hashtag squatters and ZH 'players' came and said more companies should act like this, I.E. outright tell potential customers to get lost and that they don't want their money. (Look for the ones with more Likes on their comments.)

EDIT: I look forward to the moment when these folks attempt to shame Billy and the other commentators on the site itself. They'll run away crying relatively quickly.

https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1236283076973678592
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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2020, 01:39:40 PM »
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After all this time knowing Pundit, don't we expect Pundit to say some outrageous, exaggerated things to make us laugh, or think? I expect some of his video titles to be crazy, so as to gain attention. That's the internet baby! You know? That's how you grow an audience, gain fans, members, and *customers*. Pundit *must* be provocative and a bit crazy all the time to keep the train moving.
I would agree that the Internet is full of people who say over-the-top idiotic shit and get rewarded for it.

I personally see this as a trend to oppose, though, rather than something to defend.

Apropos the original topic, I haven't looked at the DnD Twitter channel, but from my little experience with Twitter in general, I have an extremely low opinion of it as a mode of communication. I'm against the trends of clickbait, outrage, emotion, and sound bites.

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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2020, 02:05:18 PM »
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I would agree that the Internet is full of people who say over-the-top idiotic shit and get rewarded for it.

I personally see this as a trend to oppose, though, rather than something to defend.

Apropos the original topic, I haven't looked at the DnD Twitter channel, but from my little experience with Twitter in general, I have an extremely low opinion of it as a mode of communication. I'm against the trends of clickbait, outrage, emotion, and sound bites.

Greetings!

Well, of course you are against such techniques and marketing, Jhkim. You and others have that luxury. Pundit however, isn't merely engaged in discussing his or other's opinions to pass the time of day. Pundit is running an online, digital business. If you are not provocative and attention-getting, you go fucking broke, Jhkim.:D

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« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2020, 02:13:05 PM »
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Greetings!

Well, of course you are against such techniques and marketing, Jhkim. You and others have that luxury. Pundit however, isn't merely engaged in discussing his or other's opinions to pass the time of day. Pundit is running an online, digital business. If you are not provocative and attention-getting, you go fucking broke, Jhkim.:D

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So it's basically, "Become a joke or go/remain broke" then?

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« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2020, 02:53:16 PM »
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So it's basically, "Become a joke or go/remain broke" then?

Greetings!

Well, HappyDaze, I wouldn't characterize Pundit as doing that. I can appreciate a sense of humour. There's a tenuous analogy between Twitter and the Corona virus, or any virulent disease. I see that connection that Pundit is highlighting, even if others do not. It's just being provocative, and amusing. I'm not seeing what the whiners are crying about. I listened and watched Pundit's video. Pundit talks about how crazy Twitter is, and so on.

There seems to be a cadre of people that like to whine and criticize Pundit's videos or his subject titles, whatever they are and whatever they happen to be on. It doesn't matter what Pundit is talking about, these people seem to think that Pundit is some hateful, crass and stupid buffoon no matter what he does or says. I think that such knee-jerk criticism is baseless and shallow. It is just being obtusely critical because these people don't like Pundit in general.

As I mentioned, I watched Pundit's video. He is spot on in everything he discusses, and is pretty funny as well. In that light, I just see his title comparing the two as exaggerated and provocative, and humorous.:D

From a business perspective, I am familiar with at least some of the elements that go into building a digital business. There is definitely a strategy and market to being provocative, and attention-getting. And yes, Twitter is a significant part of that. Along with Facebook, You-Tube, Instagram, Pinterest, and Discord. I imagine there are some more I am not aware of or familiar with. Video length and run time, bold titles, constant interaction in these mediums, being provocative, attracting viewers and "eyeballs" to your products, website, and brand is a constant mission, and hugely important. From what I have seen, if you do not maintain a visible, active, and even provocative presence and identity, yeah, you significantly increase the likelihood of being swallowed up into obscurity and going broke. That is just the dynamic reality of the digital marketplace.:D

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« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2020, 04:44:32 PM »
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Greetings!

Well, HappyDaze, I wouldn't characterize Pundit as doing that. I can appreciate a sense of humour. There's a tenuous analogy between Twitter and the Corona virus, or any virulent disease. I see that connection that Pundit is highlighting, even if others do not. It's just being provocative, and amusing. I'm not seeing what the whiners are crying about. I listened and watched Pundit's video. Pundit talks about how crazy Twitter is, and so on.

There seems to be a cadre of people that like to whine and criticize Pundit's videos or his subject titles, whatever they are and whatever they happen to be on. It doesn't matter what Pundit is talking about, these people seem to think that Pundit is some hateful, crass and stupid buffoon no matter what he does or says. I think that such knee-jerk criticism is baseless and shallow. It is just being obtusely critical because these people don't like Pundit in general.

As I mentioned, I watched Pundit's video. He is spot on in everything he discusses, and is pretty funny as well. In that light, I just see his title comparing the two as exaggerated and provocative, and humorous.:D

From a business perspective, I am familiar with at least some of the elements that go into building a digital business. There is definitely a strategy and market to being provocative, and attention-getting. And yes, Twitter is a significant part of that. Along with Facebook, You-Tube, Instagram, Pinterest, and Discord. I imagine there are some more I am not aware of or familiar with. Video length and run time, bold titles, constant interaction in these mediums, being provocative, attracting viewers and "eyeballs" to your products, website, and brand is a constant mission, and hugely important. From what I have seen, if you do not maintain a visible, active, and even provocative presence and identity, yeah, you significantly increase the likelihood of being swallowed up into obscurity and going broke. That is just the dynamic reality of the digital marketplace.:D

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I agree. I didn't mean to imply that Pundit's points are necessarily foolish or inaccurate, just that he has to build up a sensationalized online persona to peddle those points to internet audiences. I would image that outside of environs where he has to maintain such trappings, he may convey the same views without the over-the-top sensationalism. I'd be interested in taking part in such conversations, but I'm not really in the core target audience for most media presentations.

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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2020, 05:46:59 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: March 07, 2020, 08:11:59 PM »
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I can think of one. Ever heard of Zweihander? The guy in charge of the Twitter handle for it is a good indication of how much of a dumpster fire it is. The ones supporting his behavior in the comments below this tweet are much worse.

https://twitter.com/ZweihanderRPG/status/1235562042116931585


#Twitter considers the #Tweet he's #Retweeting as potentially sensitive content. So I clicked, and found #Twitter also considers the #Tweet that #Tweet is #Retweeting to be potentially sensitive content.

Apparently discussing #Zweihander is potentially sensitive.

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Also, when OneAngryGamer covered what that company was doing, a bunch of TTRPG hashtag squatters and ZH 'players' came and said more companies should act like this, I.E. outright tell potential customers to get lost and that they don't want their money. (Look for the ones with more Likes on their comments.)

EDIT: I look forward to the moment when these folks attempt to shame Billy and the other commentators on the site itself. They'll run away crying relatively quickly.

https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1236283076973678592


Even r/KotakuInAction blacklists OAG, and with good reason.

Sorry but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, and overlooking genuine racism/antisemitism just because someone aligns with you in other areas is a huge part of the problem.

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« Reply #55 on: March 07, 2020, 08:47:05 PM »
This isn't RPGPundit's first (or last) clickbait title. That's how the internet rolls, especially on YouTube.

People aren't clicking on your BBQ Chicken recipe. It's gotta be "Easiest, Most Mouthwatering BBQ Chicken EVARRRRR!!!!" or "You will NEVER eat BBQ chicken after viewing this secret!" Then you gotta tag it for the ASMR weirdos.

It's the nature of competition for eyeballs. Hyperbole and outrage elicits emotional response and thus, draws interest.


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Sorry but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, and overlooking genuine racism/antisemitism just because someone aligns with you in other areas is a huge part of the problem.

You're right that "enemy of my enemy =/= friend"

But in 2020, words like "racism" and "antisemitism" are nonsense noise. It's just "I don't want that person to speak".

I don't know OAG, but he can't be any more despicable than the clowns the MSM celebrates.

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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2020, 04:35:12 AM »
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Even r/KotakuInAction blacklists OAG, and with good reason.

Sorry but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, and overlooking genuine racism/antisemitism just because someone aligns with you in other areas is a huge part of the problem.

A quick look at https://www.oneangrygamer.net/ doesn't reveal any racism/antisemitism. Maybe it's well hidden.
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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2020, 04:19:34 PM »
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So now DnD Twitter = Guns?

I would have believed you if you had said that DnD Twitter = Fully Automatic Armour Piercing Round Autocannon = Kill People.
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« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2020, 09:51:04 PM »
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I'm against the trends of clickbait, outrage, emotion, and sound bites.


I agree with you, but it's not a trend. It's been with us since newspaper headlines, maybe since town criers. Can you imagine teens and young criers trying to compete for bigger crowds with more girls listening to their daily town cries? And knowing young guys, its easy to imagine the news of the day getting massaged to maximize the crowd.

Look at the tweet as a concept of communication. It's got 280 characters. AKA, a space too small for nuance, but just right for an outrage bomb. And you want your tweet to gain more attention than any other tweets in people's feeds. In fact, your prime goal is re-tweets in order to gain more followers. Thus, its in your best interest to go for maximum effect with every tweet.

Social media is a symptom of our diseased civilization. It's perfect for our zero attention world.

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« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2020, 01:02:14 PM »
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Even r/KotakuInAction blacklists OAG, and with good reason.

Sorry but the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, and overlooking genuine racism/antisemitism just because someone aligns with you in other areas is a huge part of the problem.

Not my concern frankly. If what gets posted there is too reactionary by your view, then start a similar blog and try to do their job without what you find objectionable. Keep in mind though, even if you try to play neutral, as KIA as found by being on Reddit, you'll always have a target on your back.

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You're right that "enemy of my enemy =/= friend"

But in 2020, words like "racism" and "antisemitism" are nonsense noise. It's just "I don't want that person to speak".

I don't know OAG, but he can't be any more despicable than the clowns the MSM celebrates.

They aren't. The only reason they get that reputation is because, unlike other blogs, they don't censor because someone got their feelings hurt, and Billy tends to fight back instead of stay quiet, which I prefer to see.

Matter of fact, as some have pointed out, OAG is close to the only independent blog that keeps consistent track of the infiltration of SJWs into the anime and gaming spheres, among others.
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