This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.
NOTICE: Some online security services are reporting that information for a limited number of users from this site is for sale on the "dark web." As of right now, there is no direct evidence of this, but change your password just to be safe.

Author Topic: Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?  (Read 6012 times)

HappyDaze

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • H
  • Posts: 3938
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« on: July 30, 2018, 08:14:58 AM »
The WFRP4e early release pdf has been out for a few days. It has lots of little fixes that need to be done, and the lack of bookmarks is irritating, so I'm looking forward to when they replace the file with the finished version. Until then, this does show what looks to be a beautiful product and the system seems to be a fairly evolutionary step on the 1e-2e lines (not sure about magick yet, I haven't gotten that far).

I can already tell that this will cause me to permanently shelf Zweihander.

Gorilla Feet

  • Newbie
  • *
  • G
  • Posts: 14
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 08:52:41 AM »
"Permanently shelf Zweihander" has my interest piqued. I didn't much care for WFRP3 so I had not even given 4th a thought until now.

The Exploited.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1207
    • https://www.instagram.com/robnecronomicon/
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 10:25:43 AM »
I'm still reading through it... I like it a lot so far. Thank Christ C7 dropped the horrific 3e concept and went back to the original roots of the game.
https://www.instagram.com/robnecronomicon/

'Attack minded and dangerously so.' - W. E. Fairbairn.

AaronBrown99

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 433
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 12:09:15 AM »
Not interested. I found a conversion for much of my 3e stuff to FFG's Genesys system.

The talent structure is a better way to handle career advancement than the cards.
"Who cares if the classes are balanced? A Cosmo-Knight and a Vagabond walk into a Juicer Bar... Forget it Jake, it's Rifts."  - CRKrueger

Malleustein

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 124
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 12:47:11 AM »
I have only been able to glance at the book so far.  What I have seen I like.

I was initially put off by Resolve and Resilience.  I dislike expendable resources (willpower points, luck points, fate points, etc.) as they feel like rewinding time to succeed after failing rather than just dealing with the results and moving on.  But Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay has always had Fate points, so I will learn to live with them.

I approve of the character creation rules.  You can pick and point buy for your character or you can roll randomly.  The more you accept chaos (random rolls), the more experience you get for your starting career.
"The Point is Good Deeds Were Done and We Were Nearby!"

HappyDaze

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • H
  • Posts: 3938
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 12:54:03 AM »
Quote from: Malleustein;1050948
I approve of the character creation rules.  You can pick and point buy for your character or you can roll randomly.  The more you accept chaos (random rolls), the more experience you get for your starting career.
I like that elves are only 2% of the random rolls. If you want to play an elf, be prepared to forgo some of that bonus starting XP.

Malleustein

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 124
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2018, 01:29:33 AM »
Quote from: HappyDaze;1050949
I like that elves are only 2% of the random rolls. If you want to play an elf, be prepared to forgo some of that bonus starting XP.

Yes, I do think the breakdown percentage of Humans and the non-Humans is good.  I always secretly disliked my players choosing Dwarves and Elves in previous editions.
"The Point is Good Deeds Were Done and We Were Nearby!"

HappyDaze

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • H
  • Posts: 3938
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 03:54:09 AM »
Quote from: Malleustein;1050951
Yes, I do think the breakdown percentage of Humans and the non-Humans is good.  I always secretly disliked my players choosing Dwarves and Elves in previous editions.

They still have the option to make that choice, but now there is a cost to making it unless the dice are very kind.

RPGPundit

  • Administrator - The Final Boss of Internet Shitlords
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47222
    • http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2018, 01:26:12 PM »
Sounds promising. Ultimately, it would need to be significantly more useful than 2e for me to consider it.
LION & DRAGON: Medieval-Authentic OSR Roleplaying is available now! You only THINK you've played 'medieval fantasy' until you play L&D.


My Blog:  http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/
The most famous uruguayan gaming blog on the planet!

NEW!
Check out my short OSR supplements series; The RPGPundit Presents!


Dark Albion: The Rose War! The OSR fantasy setting of the history that inspired Shakespeare and Martin alike.
Also available in Variant Cover form!
Also, now with the CULTS OF CHAOS cult-generation sourcebook

ARROWS OF INDRA
Arrows of Indra: The Old-School Epic Indian RPG!
NOW AVAILABLE: AoI in print form

LORDS OF OLYMPUS
The new Diceless RPG of multiversal power, adventure and intrigue, now available.

danbuter

  • setting junkie
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3882
    • http://home.comcast.net/~danbuter
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2018, 04:11:20 PM »
I'm definitely interested.
Sword and Board - My blog about BFRPG, S&W, Hi/Lo Heroes, and other games.
Sword & Board: BFRPG Supplement Free pdf. Cheap print version.
Bushi D6  Samurai and D6!
Bushi setting map

KingCheops

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • K
  • Posts: 1173
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2018, 04:23:31 PM »
I'm one of those few weirdos happy with 3e.  I'm holding out to see what C7 does with Age of Sigmar.  Love the setting.

thedungeondelver

  • Advanced D&D
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5962
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2018, 05:06:27 PM »
I think the important question here is can you die of typhus because someone hit you with a board full of rusty nails while having a knock-down brawl in an alleyway being used as a midden?

Because if the answer is "Yes!" then it's WHFRP enough for me.
THE DELVERS DUNGEON


Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

Quote
Astrophysicists are reassessing Einsteinian relativity because the 28 billion light year across closed universe isn't big enough to encompass just how fucking far 4e is from old school.
- Kyle Aaron
A katana's just a fucking sword, you assholes! - The Shaman

HappyDaze

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • H
  • Posts: 3938
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2018, 06:27:38 PM »
Quote from: KingCheops;1051148
I'm one of those few weirdos happy with 3e.  I'm holding out to see what C7 does with Age of Sigmar.  Love the setting.

Now you are twice-damned!

Psikerlord

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 723
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2018, 10:04:29 PM »
I am very, very interested.

I've never played WFR before. Watched a youtube series flicking through the PDF, and I liked what I saw: persistent injuries, madness, disease, unpredictable magic, critical hit locations and charts... I get the feeling the game is dangerous and gritty, with the Old World backdrop (which years ago I didnt like, but have come around to).

The only thing I dont like is the $30 for a PDF price tag. Sheesh! I guess it is colour though, and 350 or something pages, so it's big. I want to see some final reviews and play videos before getting it however.

I am keen to know.... (i) how easy/quick healing is, and (ii) whether there are "improvised" actions/stunts in combat. Can anyone shed any light on these?
Low Fantasy Gaming - free PDF at the link: https://lowfantasygaming.com/
$1 Adventure Frameworks - RPG Mini Adventures https://www.patreon.com/user?u=645444
Midlands Low Magic Sandbox Setting PDF via DTRPG http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/225936/Midlands-Low-Magic-Sandbox-Setting
GM Toolkits - Traps, Hirelings, Blackpowder, Mass Battle, 5e Hardmode, Olde World Loot http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/10564/Low-Fantasy-Gaming

sureshot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2163
Is anyone looking at WFRP4e yet?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2018, 09:03:39 AM »
Does anyone know if they fixed or lessened the whiff factor of combat. I'm not looking forward to more " I swing and I miss" in combat. .