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The Gloriously Evil Drow Elves--are the Drow "Problematic?"
« Reply #345 on: November 26, 2018, 02:50:35 AM »
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« Reply #346 on: November 26, 2018, 10:24:46 AM »
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« Reply #347 on: November 26, 2018, 04:07:47 PM »
And speaking of drow not always being evil. That even made it into Lodoss War where the dark elf Priotess was pretty darn loyal to Ashram all the way.

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« Reply #348 on: November 26, 2018, 04:09:43 PM »
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Lolth in the Fiend Folio:

Queen of the Demonweb Pits:

The fiend folio version can just chalk up to the artist being bad at drawing spiders perhaps.

The Demonweb one may be a black widow. Id have to dig out the module and check.

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« Reply #349 on: November 27, 2018, 12:32:33 PM »
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And speaking of drow not always being evil. That even made it into Lodoss War where the dark elf Priotess was pretty darn loyal to Ashram all the way.

That anime is greatness. Probably a perfect D&D campaign, full of good cheese, superb-action, politics, intriguing bad guys (Ashram is wtfawesome), *dungeons & dragons*, it had it all. No GM that watched that didn't smile when Pirotess makes her loyalty pledge. You knew she was down.

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« Reply #350 on: November 27, 2018, 02:04:14 PM »
Agreed.

Like the half-races, mainly half-orc and half-elf. I never thought rape was the default explanation. I always figured it implied some kind of common genetic heritage that allowed for cross-breeding and considering real world humans, why is it so far fetched to think humans in a fantasy could/would willingly have relations with orcs and elves.

Between that and the drow being racist (and probably a whole list of other shit), I'm chalking it up to people having their blinders on and set to see everything explained in the most negative way possible. Too bad those people are so god damn loud.

Also, maybe the black widow thing was mentioned in a Salvatore book? Can't for the life of me remember where I'm getting this from but something tainted my memory somewhere.

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« Reply #351 on: November 27, 2018, 02:13:37 PM »
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Also, maybe the black widow thing was mentioned in a Salvatore book? Can't for the life of me remember where I'm getting this from but something tainted my memory somewhere.

Personally, I find widows and other thin legged-big bodied spiders creepier than the furry, fat tarantula kinds.
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« Reply #352 on: November 27, 2018, 02:52:57 PM »
You're damn skippy sir. Seen many a brown relcuse and only one black widow in the wild. I know the recluse is potentially more damaging, but they never got the response from me the widow did. Not gonna lie, I backpeddled like a wuss and had my girlfriend kill it.

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« Reply #353 on: November 27, 2018, 03:39:23 PM »
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You're damn skippy sir. Seen many a brown relcuse and only one black widow in the wild. I know the recluse is potentially more damaging, but they never got the response from me the widow did. Not gonna lie, I backpeddled like a wuss and had my girlfriend kill it.


Black widows like to hide under rocks, plastic, and other things.  They are mostly predictable.  You can usually check for one before picking something up.  They are also easier to spot, being so shiny, and larger, and distinctive.

Brown recluses infect buildings, cannot be poisoned by the usual means (because they don't clean their legs), can hibernate for weeks with no food or water, hide in clothes, and boxes, are difficult to spot, except when they run across your bedspread at night (if you are lucky) or your face at 2:00 A.M. (if not so lucky).  Even if you vacate every week and gas bomb it for a month, you'll only kill the ones in the house.  They'll migrate back in within a year or two.

My dad has been bitten by both (lucky I guess).  A black widow bite, unless you are very young, old, or have a heart condition, you've got a good chance of surviving even without professional medical care.  Like a rattlesnake, you'll be sick for days, and need to stay warm and fed, but you'll get better most likely.  A brown recluse bite, unless you are very lucky or got a trace amount of venom or got professional care within the hour, you stand a good chance of needing months to fully heal.  Untreated for just a little too long, you could easily lose a limb or worse.

If I built a fantasy monster on the black widow, and sent it after my players, they'd find it somewhat scary.  Then they'd squash it or run and move on.  If I sent the equivalent built on the brown recluse, half of them would probably leave the session.  A "giant brown recluse" would make phase spiders seem tame.

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« Reply #354 on: November 29, 2018, 06:28:15 AM »
My house has a lot of little spiders, mostly living in corners, they're quite timid. I had to get used to letting them live with me, rather than getting rid of them, because there's a ton of other bugs down here and spiders help keep more pest-like bugs under control.
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