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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2018, 10:12:21 AM »
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Does anyone know if they fixed or lessened the whiff factor of combat. I'm not looking forward to more " I swing and I miss" in combat. .


Combat is now an opposed roll.  If you miss it is only because the other person rolled better than you for their defense.   Figuring it out is a bit more math than before, but just simple subtraction.  I may not explain this very well since I'm on my way out to work and sort of rushing the post, but I'll give it a shot.

The tens digit for your characteristic or skill is an important number.  When you make a Dramatic or Opposed Test you subtract the tens digit of your roll from the tens of your characteristic or skill.  That gives you a Success Level.

The attacker rolls Weapon Proficiency  to hit and the defender rolls the same to Parry or Dodge to dodge.  Whoever gets the better Success Level wins and builds up Advantage.  Advantage gives you an increasing +10% to your rolls until you get damaged, then you lose it all.  

Damage is based on your Success Level.   So if the attacker has a Hand Weapon and Strength 30, the base damage is 7.  

Say our combatants have 40 for their Weapon Skills.  The attacker rolls 60 and the defender rolls 90.  The SLs are -2 and -5, so the attacker wins, but the SL is -2 for the attack so the incoming damage is 5 wounds.

Take the same set up, but the attacker has a 60 for their weapon skill. The SLs are +0 and -5, so the attacker wins again with the full 7 wounds.  

Crappy fighters aren't going to just sit there swinging at the air for an endless series of wiffs, but their blows aren't going to be as good as skilled fighters.  Still, with Advantage in the mix, even a crappy fighter might be able to beat an opponent into a corner and land a telling blow.

Also, even if Toughness + Armor is more than the incoming damage, the target still takes one wound.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2018, 10:23:31 AM »
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I think the important question here is can you die of typhus because someone hit you with a board full of rusty nails while having a knock-down brawl in an alleyway being used as a midden?

Because if the answer is "Yes!" then it's WHFRP enough for me.


Well, they got the Black Plague, Blood Rot, Bloody Flux, Galloping Trots, Itching Pox, Packer's Pox, and Ratte Fever.

They also have a "build your own disease" from a list of 12 different ailments.

So yep, I'd say you're covered.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2018, 10:54:57 AM »
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Well, they got the Black Plague, Blood Rot, Bloody Flux, Galloping Trots, Itching Pox, Packer's Pox, and Ratte Fever.

They also have a "build your own disease" from a list of 12 different ailments.

So yep, I'd say you're covered.

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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2018, 01:24:13 PM »
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Now you are twice-damned!

Thrice actually.  I unabashedly love D&D 4e.

Truly I was sent directly by The Everchosen himself to prepare the way.

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2018, 02:21:54 PM »
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Thrice actually.  I unabashedly love D&D 4e.

Truly I was sent directly by The Everchosen himself to prepare the way.

So you like WFRP3 and D&D4...that's no big deal.  No one plays RPGs all the time. :D
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2018, 02:29:09 PM »
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So you like WFRP3 and D&D4...that's no big deal.  No one plays RPGs all the time. :D

I know right?  Gotta mix it up with them board games.

Has Cubicle 7 said anything about setting releases for The-World-That-Was?  That would pique my interest in their stuff a bit more.  You know, other than just chunks of it being repurposed into Sigmar's new Ghal Maraz.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2018, 02:36:05 PM »
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I know right?  Gotta mix it up with them board games.

Has Cubicle 7 said anything about setting releases for The-World-That-Was?  That would pique my interest in their stuff a bit more.  You know, other than just chunks of it being repurposed into Sigmar's new Ghal Maraz.


They've said they have a whole line planned.  I expect a Magic Book, Chaos Book, God Book, just from the limited number of spells in the main book.  I have heard adventures.  I don't recall anything specific about Setting Books, but I'm sure we'll get some.

The setting so far seems to include the Yeovil-verse (Jack Yeovil/Kim Newman) since the timeline states the campaign is just a couple years after the events of the novel Drachenfels and mentions Detlef Sierck.

There's also some references to Ubersreik in the timeline.  I recall hearing something about Ubersreik in the Dev comments, so possibly, like 3rd Edition, there will be adventures set in the Ubersreik area, perhaps dealing with the aftermath of Drachenfels or perhaps even an expedition to clear out/raze the castle of the Great Enchanter.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
There is certainly going to be an Empire Within campaign book for 4e.  I think that is the only concrete title so far.

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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2018, 04:30:12 PM »
Any likelihood they do an End Times campaign book instead of a rehash of the Storm of Chaos?

Lots of fun stuff to explore in the End Times.  I might even be willing to allow those poncy High Elves in a game [spoiler]so we can play out Malekith's coronation and the civil war[/spoiler]

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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2018, 06:07:24 PM »
I hope they do neither thing.  No Storm of Chaos.  No End Times.  No GW metaplot, or at least as much of it excised as possible.

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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 03:36:39 PM »
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Thrice actually.  I unabashedly love D&D 4e.

Truly I was sent directly by The Everchosen himself to prepare the way.


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« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2018, 05:53:15 PM »
So I did a review: overall I like it a lot :) https://lowfantasygaming.com/2018/08/05/warhammer-4e-review/
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2018, 06:43:20 PM »
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So I did a review: overall I like it a lot :) https://lowfantasygaming.com/2018/08/05/warhammer-4e-review/

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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2018, 06:59:07 PM »
I think 4e is very good so far. They've done what they had set out to do. Bring the best version of 1 and 2 together.

Love they way they have expanded 'tests' now, they are still easy but add a lot more depth (if needed). I also appreciate the extra options that they introduce to make the game play a little quicker or just add a different flavor (initiative springs to mind - as you've now got several options).

Art is class. The layout is nice even though the pdf is not 100% finished yet. Kept good flavor with the careers too.

Combat is still similar but again you've not got SL levels and lots of common sense considerations.

The only thing I'm not mad on so far, are the status mechanics. I find them a little convoluted and over worked.

I find the book's text a little... Well... 'Too down to earth'. This is obviously for the newbies, so I can understand why. It feels like WFRP so I'm happy.

Funny, when I heard that Warhammer was getting another edition I found it very amusing. I really thought it would be totally botched. But when I heard that C7 were doing it, and that they were going with the original game's sensibilities I was quite confident that they'd do a good job and they didn't disappoint!
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2018, 02:53:15 AM »
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so i did a review: Overall i like it a lot :) https://lowfantasygaming.com/2018/08/05/warhammer-4e-review/

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