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Insider Information on the new Edition of Dungeons & Dragons

Started by RPGPundit, May 20, 2014, 04:57:01 PM

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Mistwell

#660
May 28, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: flyingcircus;753651I also noticed, why are they not releasing all 3 books PHB, DMG & MM all at the same time, why spread out over 3 months, what damn use is that to anyone?  I think that is just the damn stupidest thing anyone can do for a game that requires all three books.  

OK I got my PHB, we can make characters but we have to wait until November before we can actually play, thats when we'll have the DMG and MM at last.  Fuckin' dumb.

They explained why. It's for editing.  They can release them as-ready, or wait until all are ready and release all at once.  They opted to release as-ready.  And since we will have the Basic edition at that time, we will have plenty of monsters to work with when the PHB comes out.

For what it is worth, 1e took YEARS to come out, and 3.0e was released on this same schedule.  Only 2e and 4e had an all-at-once schedule.

Omega

#661
May 28, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
Quote from: Warthur;753336Eh? I wasn't aware of any beef between WotC and R. Talsorian. What's the deal?

They clashed over particulars on Netrunner which ended with WOTC chucking product into an incinerator amongst other brilliant moves. Years later WOTC sells off the game to FFG. Keeping the name, but removing the Cyberpunk RPG refferences. Apparently Talsorian got nothing out of that deal. Theres been some other jabs at them too. But the Netrunner one is the big one that comes to mind.

Why? Havent a clue. I dont recall FASA having that level of trouble with WOTC.

WOTCs partnership with White Wolf did not go so well either with some executive meddling on d20 GW. Otherwise seemed ok?

FFG though seems to be doing ok dealing with them. Aside from the Merchant of Venus incident which was Hasbro in action rather than WOTC.

Opaopajr

#662
May 29, 2014, 05:21:04 AM
Quote from: Omega;753660WOTCs partnership with White Wolf did not go so well either with some executive meddling on d20 GW. Otherwise seemed ok.

Vampire CCG had to go on hiatus, again, because WotC would not come to an agreement with WW about renewal of the Deckmaster trademark. There's only three Deckmaster games, MtG, VtES, and Netrunner. I believe it is this year that the trademark becomes open, but WW/Onyx Path (or CCP) doesn't seem to have reissuing a CCG as a priority. We'll see...
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You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Exploderwizard

#663
May 29, 2014, 08:16:18 AM
Quote from: Mistwell;753659For what it is worth, 1e took YEARS to come out, and 3.0e was released on this same schedule.  Only 2e and 4e had an all-at-once schedule.

Make that 4E only. I remember getting the 2E PHB in March and the DMG not being released until June.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

kaervas

#664
May 29, 2014, 08:36:54 AM
Would have been nice to have the chargen rules in the box, and frankly it feels a bit weird.

In a less old fart way of thinking, we live in 2014. Having the character generation be online makes quite a bit of sense.

Armchair Gamer

#665
May 29, 2014, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;753723Make that 4E only. I remember getting the 2E PHB in March and the DMG not being released until June.

   3.5 also had a simultaneous release, but it's debatable as to whether that counts as a new edition.

   And originally, 4E was supposed to be a staggered release over 3 months, but for some reason--I don't know if it was production issues, fan demand or something else--they pushed the PHB back a month and pulled the MM (I think) forward a month so all three released at once.

kythri

#666
May 29, 2014, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: kaervas;753728In a less old fart way of thinking, we live in 2014. Having the character generation be online makes quite a bit of sense.

Makes it easy to take it away later...

Sacrosanct

#667
May 29, 2014, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: kythri;753741Makes it easy to take it away later...

Once something is released for free on the internet, it never goes away.
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Simlasa

#668
May 29, 2014, 02:05:41 PM
Quote from: kaervas;753728In a less old fart way of thinking, we live in 2014. Having the character generation be online makes quite a bit of sense.
Of course... it's the 'only online and not in the box' that cause the turmoil.

Marleycat

#669
May 29, 2014, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;753814Of course... it's the 'only online and not in the box' that cause the turmoil.

You could always print it out like a normal human does. Set your printer up to use less ink or spend $15 at the library or something.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Simlasa

#670
May 29, 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;753822You could always print it out like a normal human does. Set your printer up to use less ink or spend $15 at the library or something.
Sure... but aesthetically that printout is not going to fit in well with the other contents of the box... a bunch of loose pages... or bound in some different way.
I'm an artist/graphics person and it just bugs me when things aren't cohesive that way.

Marleycat

#671
May 29, 2014, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;753827Sure... but aesthetically that printout is not going to fit in well with the other contents of the box... a bunch of loose pages... or bound in some different way.
I'm an artist/graphics person and it just bugs me when things aren't cohesive that way.

I know it's a bit inconvenient but there are workarounds and the product is free. I would bug WotC to sell it POD or go to Kinko's and get it bound up professionally if it's a huge concern. Or maybe use a 3-hole punch and put the whole thing in a 3 ring binder with some seperators. But that's just me.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Simlasa

#672
May 29, 2014, 04:08:08 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;753830I know it's a bit inconvenient but there are workarounds and the product is free. I would bug WotC to sell it POD or go to Kinko's and get it bound up professionally if it's a huge concern. Or maybe use a 3-hole punch and put the whole thing in a 3 ring binder with some seperators. But that's just me.
It's not that it's inconvenient... and I know I could have it nicely bound at Kinkos... but it wouldn't match, would it?
Would you notice/care if the PHB/DMG/MM were each of different dimensions... didn't line up on a bookshelf? What if the fonts/D&D logos on them were all different?
That's the sort of stuff I mean when I say 'aesthetics'... and yeah, it's a little thing, but at my low level of need/interest in 5e it's enough to keep me off. There are a lot of great/better options out there... including Basic once it takes on full content.

Marleycat

#673
May 29, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;753858It's not that it's inconvenient... and I know I could have it nicely bound at Kinkos... but it wouldn't match, would it?
Would you notice/care if the PHB/DMG/MM were each of different dimensions... didn't line up on a bookshelf? What if the fonts/D&D logos on them were all different?
That's the sort of stuff I mean when I say 'aesthetics'... and yeah, it's a little thing, but at my low level of need/interest in 5e it's enough to keep me off. There are a lot of great/better options out there... including Basic once it takes on full content.

I do get you but it is true that Mearls did say they would look into putting into a hardbound book when directly asked. So it may be a moot point in a year and you would have your book on the shelf.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Simlasa

#674
May 29, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;753864I do get you but it is true that Mearls did say they would look into putting into a hardbound book when directly asked. So it may be a moot point in a year and you would have your book on the shelf.
So in  a year I'll buy that, if it appears. Foregoing the Starter entirely.
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