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Title: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: RPGPundit on July 02, 2022, 05:30:41 PM
Tommorow, 7:30pm Central, it's Inappropriate Characters!  Guest starring Greg Gillespie, creator of Barrowmaze!
We'll be talking about him, his new book Dwarrowdeep and all the news and controversy in the #ttrpg #dnd and #osr hobbies!

Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: RPGPundit on July 03, 2022, 08:23:08 PM
We're live in under 10 minutes!
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: Zalman on July 04, 2022, 09:18:11 AM
First time watcher of Inappropriate Characters here -- can someone tell me who FloridaManRPG is? I didn't see any links accompanying the video besides those for the other three panelists.
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: HappyDaze on July 04, 2022, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: Zalman on July 04, 2022, 09:18:11 AM
First time watcher of Inappropriate Characters here -- can someone tell me who FloridaManRPG is? I didn't see any links accompanying the video besides those for the other three panelists.
His name is Joel, he's gone by HentaiDaddy<some numbers> before, and he's the tech-guy that makes the podcast work. He also publishes some stuff, but I honestly can't recall any of it.
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: Zalman on July 04, 2022, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze on July 04, 2022, 10:54:17 AM
Quote from: Zalman on July 04, 2022, 09:18:11 AM
First time watcher of Inappropriate Characters here -- can someone tell me who FloridaManRPG is? I didn't see any links accompanying the video besides those for the other three panelists.
His name is Joel, he's gone by HentaiDaddy<some numbers> before, and he's the tech-guy that makes the podcast work. He also publishes some stuff, but I honestly can't recall any of it.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: RPGPundit on July 04, 2022, 07:00:48 PM
He's Jobe Bittman. He most recently wrote The Book of Antitheses for Lamentations of the Flame Princess, and previously wrote a number of adventures and supplements for Dungeon Crawl Classics.

Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: Zalman on July 05, 2022, 07:31:11 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 04, 2022, 07:00:48 PM
He's Jobe Bittman. He most recently wrote The Book of Antitheses for Lamentations of the Flame Princess, and previously wrote a number of adventures and supplements for Dungeon Crawl Classics.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: Thorn Drumheller on July 05, 2022, 01:03:15 PM
I missed being on the livestream so watched it later. Having Greg as guest was awesome. Thanks
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: RPGPundit on July 07, 2022, 04:41:49 PM
Thanks to Greg!
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: Jaeger on July 12, 2022, 01:49:06 PM
Caught this late as well.

In terms of pure gaming discussion this is one of the best episodes yet.

I really liked at how at 25:00 in Greg hit the nail on the head of how being Self-Referential just makes everything Fucking Suck.

In WotC D&D's case that this was done intentionally:

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Johnathan Tweet: 3e-and-the-feel-of-D&D
https://www.enworld.org/threads/3e-and-the-feel-of-d-d.667269/

Tweet openly talks about excising any references of or to real-world mythology when worldbuilding for official 3e D&D.

Making the game entirely self-referential.

Quotes:
"...one part of the process I enjoyed was describing the world of D&D in its own terms, rather than referring to real-world history and mythology. When writing roleplaying games, I enjoy helping the player get immersed in the setting, and I always found these references to the real world to be distractions."
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"...by the time we were working on 3rd Ed, D&D had had such a big impact on fantasy that we basically used D&D as its own source."
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"We were fortunate that by 2000 D&D had such a strong legacy that it could stand on its own without reference to Earth history or mythology."


https://bradfordcwalker.blogspot.com/2022/07/narrative-warfare-benefits-of-treating.html
"A healthy hobby scene maintains its connection to its roots, and shuns becoming so insular and self-referential that it disappears up its own ass."

D&D being made self-referential by people who actively hate historical Western Myth and Legend, and continuing that status with current WotC employee's is a bigger factor than most give credit for when wondering why official D&D is heading in its current direction.
Title: Re: Inappropriate Characters with Barrowmaze's Greg Gillespie
Post by: RPGPundit on July 13, 2022, 06:17:20 AM
Absolutely. One of the reasons for the success of my products is that I realize that history, mythology, legend and real world influences are more sophisticated and interesting and carry more symbolic weight than things that I just make up for myself.