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Author Topic: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K  (Read 477 times)

Visitor Q

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Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« on: August 06, 2022, 05:00:42 AM »
It looks like Wrath and Glory is being put to one side and a new D100 WH40K rpg is in the works.

https://cubicle7games.com/announcing-warhammer-40000-imperium-maledictum/

I thought WFRP 4th edition wasn't bad and I was a fan of the supplements and sourcebooks for it so I'm hopeful this will be a return to form for 40K rping.

I really enjoyed the FFG run so from my point of view there are big shoes to fill.

Any interest or particular hopes for this take on 40K rpg (barring the usual TheRpg.site pleas that it isn't woke etc).


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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2022, 05:12:12 AM »
I don't think this replaces W&G. I think it'll run parallel with it like WFRP and Soulbound do.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2022, 08:07:22 AM »
I don't think this replaces W&G. I think it'll run parallel with it like WFRP and Soulbound do.

Yeah, that's probably correct actually.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2022, 09:20:57 AM »
I've heard about Wrath and Glory. Is it any good?

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2022, 10:09:00 AM »
I've heard about Wrath and Glory. Is it any good?
I like 40k and own pretty much every book for every line FFG put out. I bought the pdf of the W&G core when it came out and I was so unimpressed that I didn't buy the print book nor any of the supplements. So, IMO, no, it isn't any good.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2022, 10:30:57 AM »
I've played a bit of WFRP 4th and its a decent game. Personally I'm always glad to see anything 40K related that focuses on the regular humans in the setting, and the whole Inquisition vs. Chaos Cults spy game is probably the most interesting thing going on in the 40K universe, at least for the purposes of an RPG.

Games Workshop is on the list of companies I don't like giving money to, but they're less odious than WOTC or Disney, so if I can get a cheap PDF and play it online, I might give it a shot.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2022, 10:51:25 AM »
I've played a bit of WFRP 4th and its a decent game. Personally I'm always glad to see anything 40K related that focuses on the regular humans in the setting, and the whole Inquisition vs. Chaos Cults spy game is probably the most interesting thing going on in the 40K universe, at least for the purposes of an RPG.

Games Workshop is on the list of companies I don't like giving money to, but they're less odious than WOTC or Disney, so if I can get a cheap PDF and play it online, I might give it a shot.
I've always liked the xenon side myself... Genestealer cults pushing "populist" movements, Tau-backed "peoples' revolutions," Dark Eldar (now called something like Drew Carey, IIRC) striking like evil fae, and more exotic pockets of aliens making things more fun than Chaos ever did.
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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2022, 12:12:25 PM »
I've always liked the xenon side myself...

That stuff's good too. (I mean, how can you not like Hellraiser space pirates?). What I really meant is that I find all the stuff in Warhammer 40k that isn't the actual "war" part a lot more engaging. The fact that this is getting an announcement shortly after the Rogue Trader CRPG is a heartening (to me at least) sign that GW is taking more of an interest in promoting the parts of their universe that aren't just space marines shooting at monsters.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2022, 12:29:01 PM »
It looks like Wrath and Glory is being put to one side and a new D100 WH40K rpg is in the works.

https://cubicle7games.com/announcing-warhammer-40000-imperium-maledictum/

I thought WFRP 4th edition wasn't bad and I was a fan of the supplements and sourcebooks for it so I'm hopeful this will be a return to form for 40K rping.

I really enjoyed the FFG run so from my point of view there are big shoes to fill.

Any interest or particular hopes for this take on 40K rpg (barring the usual TheRpg.site pleas that it isn't woke etc).

I see. I thought it strange that in a rare moment of lucidity (from a company that put open cuckoldry in their games as a virtue signal)  Owlcat based their Rogue Trader CRPG on the discontinued (but far superior to Wrath & Glory) FFG 40k RPGs. But now this makes much more sense.

Frankly I'm glad to see D100 40k come back. As long as the power levels remain reasonably sensible and divided. I liked that the acolyte of an Inquisitor was a regular human being and death was a real and more than likely possibility. But if you wanted you could play Deathwatch with a suitably tanky Space Marine. And because they were seperate games. You didn't just have a Space Marine hanging around with some guys with flashlights and a prayer.   Dark Heresy was at one point my favourite RPG of all time. I loved the 8 page critical hit tables. 2E Dark Heresy cemented that FFG know absolutely nothing about making RPGs whatsoever just like WFRP 3e.
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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2022, 12:35:52 PM »
I've heard about Wrath and Glory. Is it any good?

It is without exaggeration and hyperbole, complete shit. I'm not saying that to be an edgelord or contrarian. It's a paper thin ruleset for "casual" games where they just didn't think to properly balance a party containing an SoB, Space Marine, Guardsman, and Inquisitor. You technically had "power levels" but even within that you had Inquisitors rubbing arms with Guardsmen and so on. It's complete rubbish. It was clearly designed for the "DnD as a lifestyle brand" people that Pundit talks about. It's nothing. It's shallower than a puddle because at least with a puddle you can have fun splashing it. 

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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2022, 01:24:06 PM »
I've heard about Wrath and Glory. Is it any good?

It's...fine.  I still run the old Black Industries/FFG versions of the 40K RPGs but Wrath & Glory does let you do a lot more out of the box and gets some halfway decent support.  It's not an amazing game but it has a pretty good variety of available classes.  However, the setting feels (and is) very "small" compared to the likes of the original three 40K games released by BI/FFG, which are still among the most atmospheric, evocative sci-fi RPGs ever released.  The system used in the old games was easy to learn--it was effectively a (slightly) less complex percentile version of D&D 3.5 with Rolemaster-style crit tables.  In short, there's no reason to play Wrath & Glory given the availability of the superior Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, and Deathwatch. 

I'm pretty stoked for the new game, especially if it receives as much support as the current iteration of WFRP and Soulbound.  Admittedly, I don't love Soulbound, but you definitely get what you pay for in terms of product quality and gameable material.  If they have to include the odd bit of radical inclusion to keep from being targeted by the Twitter mob so they can keep putting out quality products, I'm okay with that.  It's when "radical inclusion" itself becomes the entire point of the game that I start looking for other options.  I'm Catholic and a conservative...and a gamer and metalhead, but have no desire to listen to conservative Catholic metal* or play conservative Catholic RPGs.  In short, I like my games ideology-free and Cubicle 7 mostly delivers on that front.
*Though there are a few decent Christian metal bands out there.

Also, yes, Wrath & Glory is...not amazing, but they also inherited it from Ulisses Spiele when they acquired the GW license.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2022, 05:07:26 AM »
I'm hoping they dig even further into some of the regular day to day life on Imperial planets and institutions. Floorplans, work-routines, consumables, vehicles the whole thing. It's a daunting task for an Imperium of a million worlds but I think this is what would really make the game stand out from other 40K products which (quite reasonably) have focused on the more extraordinary elements of the setting.

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Re: Imperium Maledictum - Cubicle7 WH40K
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2022, 09:51:13 AM »
I'm actually very excited about this. I insanely loved the smaller scale and horror of Dark Heresy (its like a WFRP 1e version of Warhammer 40K thematically - fantasy renaissance call of cthulhu). I think the new version was great. My understanding of the origins of W&G is that the original designer, Ross Watson (who is terrific) worked on Dark Heresy at the same time that the same company was also developing the star wars game with custom dice, really wanted to do something "different" mechanically and Wrath and Glory finally gave him the opportunity. My 2 cents is that people wildly underestimate how much time it takes to get a system working. I really wish that unless people are really genius level designers they would just take something existing and customize it (Ken Hite is this guy) rather than make it from scratch - it takes forever to get new systems working.