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Author Topic: Immortal - The Invisible War  (Read 1377 times)

himsati

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Re: Immortal - The Invisible War
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2020, 10:01:04 PM »
I haven't touched working on the game in 10 years.  Didn't even know the site was down until recently, I just left everything up for folks who wanted to grab the information.  Like BoxCrayonTales said if you navigate to http://invisiblewar.com/main.html you can get to everything still.  Hosting company looks to have made a change that broke the original primary index main page.


I only found this because I was going thru some old links in my browser's favorites... LOL




Himsati - aka Rick Don (author 3rd Ed Immortal)
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Re: Immortal - The Invisible War
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2020, 01:52:33 PM »
I haven't touched working on the game in 10 years.  Didn't even know the site was down until recently, I just left everything up for folks who wanted to grab the information.  Like BoxCrayonTales said if you navigate to http://invisiblewar.com/main.html you can get to everything still.  Hosting company looks to have made a change that broke the original primary index main page.


I only found this because I was going thru some old links in my browser's favorites... LOL




Himsati - aka Rick Don (author 3rd Ed Immortal)


Hey there! Fancy seeing you here.


I’m a bit sad to hear that you gave up on writing Invisible War. I only heard about it some years ago while looking for alternatives to World of Darkness. I definitely thought IW handled the secret history concept better, namely by allowing the PCs to have been personally involved in it rather than (as usual for WoD) juvenile modern day upstarts. That’s the same reason I liked Nephilim too.


Have you considered selling Invisible War on DriveThruRPG for posterity? Or are there legal issues?

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Re: Immortal - The Invisible War
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2020, 02:03:18 PM »
Legally the IP was owned by its original creator.  And once I got the main books for 3rd Edition up and most of the remaining player base had switched over, I just felt it we kind of owed it to allow those books to roam free and not put them up for charges.  The original books I don't even think the original creator of the game has the files needed to recreate them; there were a lot of issues with the original publishing company that he and I both worked for that put out the 1st Edition and the 1st book of the 2nd Edition (the one where the company CEO decided to change everything to sell the idea as a TV show because we knew people who worked on the Babylon 5 TV Show.  That's how Claudia got involved in 2nd Edition as the "cover model" and a main character in the backstory to it.


Unfortunately the CEO did a poor job of trying to constantly take over finances for the company and drove it into the ground.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2020, 10:37:51 PM »
Think I heard something of the proposed TV deal way back? Was it in the late 90s?
Mismanagement has ever been the bane of gaming companies. Either intentional or just from lack of knowledge on the problems of running your own company.
Ive known several who leaped into running their own business thinking it was profits all the way. Then learning the hard way just how costly game publishing is and how little the publisher tends to get in the end.

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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2020, 10:52:27 PM »
Yep, in the late 90's... Company had the IP for the Babylon 5 CCG (along with Terminator, Aliens/Predator, Lara Croft and Wheel of Time) and our CEO got in comfy with some of the production level people on the B5 show and pitched the idea.  They said it was too complicated and that it needed to be simplified for a TV audience... and that is how Immortal 2nd Edition was born.  It was a forced rewrite of the game universe that only had cryptic references to the old 1st Edition...  Then when it didn't go over because a) the first game book was so slim and half of everything you needed was missing (hence why I created on my own time a Book II and III to help out) and b) $$$$ started running out.... it got dumped.  That's when the original creator of the IP gave me permission as the company shut down in 2002 to go ahead and do the 3rd Edition that I just put out for free.  Lots of people got screwed out of being paid for artwork, salary, etc. when the CEO finally closed the doors.  He took checks for artists and such and rewrote them to pay his personal phone bills and stuff.  It was pathetic.
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Same Game Universe, without the prior publisher's poor editing/rules/TV-series/game mechanics fiasco
http://www.invisiblewar.com
 
"When forced to choose between two evils, I'll take the one I haven't tried yet."

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Re: Immortal - The Invisible War
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2020, 08:10:45 AM »

Rough.

Was the third edition completed? The website seems to say that the third book wasn’t finished.


I don’t trust the website hosting because it could vanish at any time. Without a big e-retailer that’s always a risk.


Anyway, there’s always kickstarters. Plenty of revivals and anniversary editions were crowdfunded.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2020, 08:12:42 AM by BoxCrayonTales »

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Re: Immortal - The Invisible War
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2020, 02:08:23 PM »
Mismanagement has ever been the bane of companies. Either intentional or just from lack of knowledge on the problems of running your own company.
FTFY. Nothing reaffirms my belief that people are stupid quite like reading about spectacular financial idiocies. It's not JUST gaming companies :)


I feel bad for himsati though.