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I wonder if its literally tiring, or only morally draining...

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Akrasia

#45
November 09, 2006, 12:39:56 PM
The thing that I don't understand about the 4e obsession is this: why not simply focus on the games that you like NOW?

Maybe you won't even like 4e.  People still play OD&D, 1e AD&D, RC D&D, etc., today.  So why not just keep playing 3e?  It's not as though enough material hasn't already been produced to last a lifetime.

So just keep playing the games that you enjoy.  Whenever 4e is released, by all means look at it.  But it is quite possible that you will not like it, or simply prefer whatever you're playing now.

Why the obsession of figuring out when 4e will be released, and what changes it will make, if you already have a game system (or systems) that satisfy your needs?
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#46
November 09, 2006, 01:04:33 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaThe thing that I don't understand about the 4e obsession is this: why not simply focus on the games that you like NOW?

Maybe you won't even like 4e.  People still play OD&D, 1e AD&D, RC D&D, etc., today.  So why not just keep playing 3e?  It's not as though enough material hasn't already been produced to last a lifetime.

So just keep playing the games that you enjoy.  Whenever 4e is released, by all means look at it.  But it is quite possible that you will not like it, or simply prefer whatever you're playing now.

Why the obsession of figuring out when 4e will be released, and what changes it will make, if you already have a game system (or systems) that satisfy your needs?
:confused:
It's a great question.  I would guess it has to do, specifically with repsect to D&D4, with the Living campaigns.  Many are run by the RPGA which is, as I understand it, run by WOTC.  If they put out 4E, you can be sure they will migrate any and all campaigns over which they have control/influence.

This is a stronger influence than you might think.  When I came back to gaming after a long, long absence, the "new" D&D, 3.5 at that point, was explained to me through the eyes of Living Greyhawk. A rough quote: "Oh yeah, the new D&D is cool, and you play it with people all over the world inthis huge campaign..." etc.
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Casey777

#47
November 09, 2006, 01:07:55 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaThe thing that I don't understand about the 4e obsession is this: why not simply focus on the games that you like NOW?

Maybe you won't even like 4e.  People still play OD&D, 1e AD&D, RC D&D, etc., today.  So why not just keep playing 3e?  It's not as though enough material hasn't already been produced to last a lifetime.

IMO it falls under the "I won't play a game unless it's in print & has a lot of supplements in print and upcoming" mentality. And liking new shinies to gaze at. :p

Me I prefer a game that works and out of the core book(s). There are few out of print core game books that are hard to find and/or cost more than a new book, and usually those are either worth the hunt or not worth notice.

Nicephorus

#48
November 09, 2006, 01:11:23 PM
Quote from: AkrasiaWhy the obsession of figuring out when 4e will be released, and what changes it will make, if you already have a game system (or systems) that satisfy your needs?
:confused:

I think there are two components:

1. general nature of people to try to predict the future on fields they're interested in.  It's kinda like predicting who will win and election or win the super bowl.

2.  A small group was looking for an early release of 4.0 as a sign that WOTC wasn't doing well because they wanted WOTC to fail.

jcfiala

#49
November 10, 2006, 12:34:56 PM
I don't think we're going to see a 4th edition in a while, and here's why: Wizards has hit their 'second wind' and are releasing a lot of really high-quality stuff these days.  People are talking about how good it is on the forums, and in the game shops, and it's selling.  I don't think there's any need for a 4th edition, even if you're just looking at WotC's bottom line.

People get up in Wizards' face about being yanked around by Hasbro because of the (early) release of 3.5, but I can't say I've seen anything else that Wizards has done that's obviously because Hasbro wants more $$$.  I don't think Hasbro's going to force a 4th edition until there's more of a need for one.
 

Yamo

#50
November 13, 2006, 12:00:45 AM
Quote from: RPGPunditThey don't get that Wizards has as much risk of loss in a new edition as it has of gain; they are better off doing a "re-imaging" of D&D (with things like the new Basic set) and holding off on a new edition until its clear that its absolutely necessary.

Sales will determine the appropriate time and sales alone. When a dip of sufficient size is projected, a spike (in the form of a new edition) will be arranged.

Anybody without access to WotC's books is just pulling guesses out of their asses.
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#51
November 13, 2006, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: NicephorusI think there are two components:

1. general nature of people to try to predict the future on fields they're interested in.  It's kinda like predicting who will win and election or win the super bowl.

2.  A small group was looking for an early release of 4.0 as a sign that WOTC wasn't doing well because they wanted WOTC to fail.

With group number 2 almost always being the instigators of the rampant rumours, lies, and speculations that all the "number 1s" end up diving into.

All part of the pointless and nonsensical effort to try to subvert D&D/Wizards.

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