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Author Topic: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races  (Read 14000 times)

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2020, 05:51:36 PM »
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1325930059941642241

God! That guy is creepy.
If Mercer is serious, he'd give up his position as a voice actor and youtube celebrity to a "oppressed minority", but he won't because this is all just virtue signaling.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2020, 08:02:41 PM »
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1325930059941642241

God! That guy is creepy.
If Mercer is serious, he'd give up his position as a voice actor and youtube celebrity to a "oppressed minority", but he won't because this is all just virtue signaling.

He is probably Native American or some such.
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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2020, 08:20:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1325930059941642241

God! That guy is creepy.
If Mercer is serious, he'd give up his position as a voice actor and youtube celebrity to a "oppressed minority", but he won't because this is all just virtue signaling.

He is probably Native American or some such.

Then he can give his stuff to a black transgender person.
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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2020, 09:00:25 PM »
I honestly don't know how we discuss this topic in the Main Forum without violating RPGPundit's rules regarding politics on the main page.

My 2 cents? Fuck those fucking fuckheads.

Am I really supposed to play a WHITE DUDE in L5R? Rifts Japan? Rifts Africa? What about my Rifts South America game? No more Latino characters for non-Latino players?

Yet again, more reasons to never let a SJW near your table.


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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2020, 09:35:32 PM »
I honestly don't know how we discuss this topic in the Main Forum without violating RPGPundit's rules regarding politics on the main page.

This is where RPGPundit put the thread.  I'm sure he could move it if he wanted to do so.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2020, 10:27:37 PM »
I honestly don't know how we discuss this topic in the Main Forum without violating RPGPundit's rules regarding politics on the main page.

My 2 cents? Fuck those fucking fuckheads.

Am I really supposed to play a WHITE DUDE in L5R? Rifts Japan? Rifts Africa? What about my Rifts South America game? No more Latino characters for non-Latino players?

Yet again, more reasons to never let a SJW near your table.

In this particular instance I’m not understanding how this should be filed under political? A group of players already arguing that you shouldn’t play a particular race etc unless you are that race. As you yourself point out following this theory leads to the conclusion that a number of RPGs become unplayable. To me it’s like the old DND version wars where you shouldn’t be playing version ‘x’
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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2020, 10:40:21 PM »
I stopped going to the game stores in my area years ago because of this. Comicbook stores are dead now, so hopefully the gamestores are on their way too.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2020, 12:14:54 AM »
I stopped going to the game stores in my area years ago because of this. Comicbook stores are dead now, so hopefully the gamestores are on their way too.

Feel bad for the based shops, but feel good seeing the woke shops die off.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2020, 01:11:20 AM »
He is probably Native American or some such.

He looks less native american than I do.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2020, 02:06:59 AM »
Feel bad for the based shops, but feel good seeing the woke shops die off.
I wish there were based shops of anything near me. But everything is run by the gay mafia.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2020, 08:18:32 AM »
This isn't a Marxist or globalist position to take.

There seems a very USA-an issue with a subset of middle class white people who seem to have adopted a kind of separatist prescriptive racial or gender isolationism at the level of the individual.
I can't quite work it out but it's ultra consumerist liberalism (as in I buy my own identity) mixed with the sort of moralistic shot we usually see with mass movement conformism.
It's  not spread far outside the Anglo world, but as a subsidiary of US culture we have it in the UK.
It's a very small proportion of people that really espouse it, but it can be quite difficult to question since it can present itself as overturning historic oppression, and hijack legitimate anti-racism, homophobia and mysogyny.
That this idea may have popped up in gaming isn't surprising, after all we are a hobby that is all about roles and identity and constructing and playing with new ones.

It's a gaming issue, but one needs to careful to conflate it with the broader social-democratic movement.
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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2020, 02:19:24 PM »
I finally got through the video (with ad breaks every 3 minutes; YouTube really sucks now as a platform.) I think Mercer is going to find out soon enough that voice acting a character of a different race is not allowed either. But he really can't complain. This is the side he chose.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2020, 03:06:17 PM »
This isn't a Marxist or globalist position to take.

There seems a very USA-an issue with a subset of middle class white people who seem to have adopted a kind of separatist prescriptive racial or gender isolationism at the level of the individual.
I can't quite work it out but it's ultra consumerist liberalism (as in I buy my own identity) mixed with the sort of moralistic shot we usually see with mass movement conformism.
It's  not spread far outside the Anglo world, but as a subsidiary of US culture we have it in the UK.
It's a very small proportion of people that really espouse it, but it can be quite difficult to question since it can present itself as overturning historic oppression, and hijack legitimate anti-racism, homophobia and mysogyny.
That this idea may have popped up in gaming isn't surprising, after all we are a hobby that is all about roles and identity and constructing and playing with new ones.

It's a gaming issue, but one needs to careful to conflate it with the broader social-democratic movement.
Good points.

It can be linked to a rise in a class of people involved in creating cultural content - this aspect of it is not so USA centric.  I first saw this being pointed out 10 or 15 years ago with the gap appearing between the traditional working class supporter of left wing political parties and middle class urban progressives.  What we are seeing right now, is what happens when you take this new class, put it in a culture that has a long history of seeing things through puritanical religious view points, add social media and then supercharge with Covid 19.

However, this isn't solely linked to the US.  It's happening all over the place because the same underlying social changes and conditions are there - it just isn't happening to anything like the same extent.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2020, 04:17:49 PM »
I finally got through the video (with ad breaks every 3 minutes; YouTube really sucks now as a platform.) I think Mercer is going to find out soon enough that voice acting a character of a different race is not allowed either. But he really can't complain. This is the side he chose.
  HE will be OK for a while.  All the twitter rage is going to be headed towards Gina Carano for having the audacity to create and post on a Parler account today.

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Re: I Told You So: D&D SJWs Demand You Don't Play Other Races
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2020, 05:19:11 PM »
But I've read Parler is backed up by Mercer family :P