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Author Topic: I'm reading some older D&D pdfs, specifically Ravenloft, and I'm a bit confused.  (Read 1243 times)

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In the original Ravenloft book they referred to gypsies as gypsies and I AM SHITTING AND PISSING MYSELF OVER THIS! X CARD! X CARD! THIS IS NOT OKAY!

I love Ravenloft though. It's my favorite setting. You can really use it to spring some horror and gothic ambience on your party when you need to spice up the game.
The g-word is a slur, just like the n-word. It's just taking longer for non-Rom people to learn that. The older Ravenloft books were written in less enlightened times, but nowadays we should be more sensitive. And by "sensitive," I mean do a lazy find-and-replace with "bohemian" instead... like how modern reprints and audiobooks of "The Rats in the Walls" rename Delapore's cat to "Blackman", "Blackie", or "Black Tom."
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Eirikrautha

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In the original Ravenloft book they referred to gypsies as gypsies and I AM SHITTING AND PISSING MYSELF OVER THIS! X CARD! X CARD! THIS IS NOT OKAY!

I love Ravenloft though. It's my favorite setting. You can really use it to spring some horror and gothic ambience on your party when you need to spice up the game.
The g-word is a slur, just like the n-word. It's just taking longer for non-Rom people to learn that. The older Ravenloft books were written in less enlightened times, but nowadays we should be more sensitive. And by "sensitive," I mean do a lazy find-and-replace with "bohemian" instead... like how modern reprints and audiobooks of "The Rats in the Walls" rename Delapore's cat to "Blackman", "Blackie", or "Black Tom."
Not sure if serious...  ???

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In the original Ravenloft book they referred to gypsies as gypsies and I AM SHITTING AND PISSING MYSELF OVER THIS! X CARD! X CARD! THIS IS NOT OKAY!

I love Ravenloft though. It's my favorite setting. You can really use it to spring some horror and gothic ambience on your party when you need to spice up the game.
The g-word is a slur, just like the n-word. It's just taking longer for non-Rom people to learn that. The older Ravenloft books were written in less enlightened times, but nowadays we should be more sensitive. And by "sensitive," I mean do a lazy find-and-replace with "bohemian" instead... like how modern reprints and audiobooks of "The Rats in the Walls" rename Delapore's cat to "Blackman", "Blackie", or "Black Tom."

There is no consensus about how much of a slur "gypsy" is, even among the Rom, many of whom call themselves "gypsies" regardless. And the term "bohemian" is not much better, nor more accurate. No "slur" is quite like the n-word in terms of being an obvious slur (other than perhaps the k-word for Jews). That's why we call it the n-word.

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How well would the two OSE books handle Ravenloft?

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How well would the two OSE books handle Ravenloft?
There would probably be a lot more player character deaths. 

On the bright side, conversion to OSE would be very easy since most of the monsters that appear have already been statted out in AD&D, or B/X.  There are a couple of monsters that you would have to convert, but that isn’t too hard. 

As for Strahd, just use the standard Vampire stats with maximum hit points, and tack on the abilities of a 10th level Magic User and you are good to go.

Or you can use the stats from I-6: Ravenloft.

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Greetings!

I always liked the original Ravenloft line of books and supplements. They are great on providing adventures, interesting NPC's, and all kinds of adventure seeds and advice for running Gothic-themed campaigns. Just stick with the original stuff from the 1990's.

The new products are mostly garbage. The first book a few years back, dealing with Strahd seems cool. Anything more recent though is nonsense.

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In the original Ravenloft book they referred to gypsies as gypsies and I AM SHITTING AND PISSING MYSELF OVER THIS! X CARD! X CARD! THIS IS NOT OKAY!

I love Ravenloft though. It's my favorite setting. You can really use it to spring some horror and gothic ambience on your party when you need to spice up the game.
The g-word is a slur, just like the n-word. It's just taking longer for non-Rom people to learn that. The older Ravenloft books were written in less enlightened times, but nowadays we should be more sensitive. And by "sensitive," I mean do a lazy find-and-replace with "bohemian" instead... like how modern reprints and audiobooks of "The Rats in the Walls" rename Delapore's cat to "Blackman", "Blackie", or "Black Tom."

I don't care about the feelings of Gypsys though. They're big lads. They don't care about DnD to begin with.

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The g-word is a slur, just like the n-word. It's just taking longer for non-Rom people to learn that. The older Ravenloft books were written in less enlightened times, but nowadays we should be more sensitive. And by "sensitive," I mean do a lazy find-and-replace with "bohemian" instead... like how modern reprints and audiobooks of "The Rats in the Walls" rename Delapore's cat to "Blackman", "Blackie", or "Black Tom."

News flash timmy.

My relatives were straight from the old country and Gypsy was used to refer to the crooks because they hated the bad rep they gave everyone else. In my home town they would come through every few years and hop homes running various grifter plays to case out homes to rob. They used to hang out in back of Kats home and she had an agreement with them to leave her alone. They were dangerous to say the least.

Every time I've heard the word Gypsy used its been deserved. There must be normal ones out there who arent scum and worse. But fucking hell we kept getting the worst of the lot.

As for its use in ravenloft. Boo hoo hoo. The module depicts them in a mostly positive light despite the fuck-up evil entry at the back.