I would like to play a game made by a genuine alt-righter. I'm talking about bonafide white nationalist. It's this morbid curiosity of mine. I'm really interested to see what kind of game that kind of person would make. The problem is, I can't find any of them in the industry. You would think that fantasy worlds about mythical heroes would be a ground zero for Alt-Righters, but that doesn't appear to be the case. So, I'm asking you. Do you know some white nationalist/Fascist that works in the RPG/Tabletop industry? Even if it's someone obscure, tell me.
I know about MYFAROG and RaHoWa, but those are not professional products and, frankly, they aren't that good from what I saw.
Also, I should add:
1. Please don't make this thread into a political debate. I'm not interested in defending nor condemning this kind of people. I'm just interested in their products (if they exist).
2. I'm not necessarily looking for alt-right games, but alt-right creators. Their games can be about anything, racist or not.
3. If you know someone fitting this description or if you are someone fitting this description, but don't want to go public with that information, send me a PM.
This is my first post on this site. What a way to start huh?
I think, outside of the two mentioned, you won't find any professional games made by professed white nationalists.
If you are looking for alt right game designers then I suggest that you ask the guys over at rpg.net. They have a whole list of them
I realize that this is a shot in the dark at best, but who knows maybe there is someone really obscure.
Quote from: Tanin Wulf;1091500I think, outside of the two mentioned, you won't find any professional games made by professed white nationalists.
I'm struggling to think of any. (Setting aside the culture war accusations.)
Quote from: Shasarak;1091501If you are looking for alt right game designers then I suggest that you ask the guys over at rpg.net. They have a whole list of them
Really? I can't seem to find the list in question. Also, I'm not sure that rpg.net is a reliable source on who's alt-right. It is safe to say that they are more than biased. Still, can I get a link? I would like to check it out.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091499I would like to play a game made by a genuine alt-righter. I'm talking about bonafide white nationalist. It's this morbid curiosity of mine. I'm really interested to see what kind of game that kind of person would make. The problem is, I can't find any of them in the industry. You would think that fantasy worlds about mythical heroes would be a ground zero for Alt-Righters, but that doesn't appear to be the case. So, I'm asking you. Do you know some white nationalist/Fascist that works in the RPG/Tabletop industry? Even if it's someone obscure, tell me.
I know about MYFAROG and RaHoWa, but those are not professional products and, frankly, they aren't that good from what I saw.
Also, I should add:
1. Please don't make this thread into a political debate. I'm not interested in defending nor condemning this kind of people. I'm just interested in their products (if they exist).
2. I'm not necessarily looking for alt-right games, but alt-right creators. Their games can be about anything, racist or not.
3. If you know someone fitting this description or if you are someone fitting this description, but don't want to go public with that information, send me a PM.
This is my first post on this site. What a way to start huh?
Let's say that there are only 500 KKK members in the entire US. How many of them write RPGs and run them?
Let's say that there are only 300,000 ANTIFA members in the entire US. How many of them write RPGs and run them?
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1091505Let's say that there are only 500 KKK members in the entire US. How many of them write RPGs and run them?
Let's say that there are only 300,000 ANTIFA members in the entire US. How many of them write RPGs and run them?
You have to admit. 4chan has made "geekdom" very attractive to alt-right.
RPG.net is going to feed you a list of people they have put on "The List" - not actual people who are white nationalists.
You should probably just try out one of the two you mentioned. I hardly imagine the experiment is going to net you any usable or even noteworthy data.
It is highly likely that a white nationalist game designer can make a perfectly NOT white nationalist game. Although many of the regressive-left seem incapable of making a solid game that doesn't take the idea of equality into absurd fun-ruining extremes, it's also likely many left-leaning game designers make perfectly fun NOT left-leaning games.
In fact, there's probably at least one game you've played that was made by a true dyed-in-the-wool racist. I'm also pretty sure you've likely played a game by a fanatic regressive-leftist. You probably had no idea.
If you're trying to get data points that prove that otherwise politically-minded people can make perfectly non-political games... we already recognize that. This site is full of reasonable adult people from all sides of the political spectrum that usually could give a shit about a designer's personal beliefs. Most of us DO however give a shit about fascists trying to tell us what to do which the hand-wringing regressive left spin-mongers constantly conflate with approval of their work. Which is actually quite frustrating because we desperately would like them to focus exclusively on their works (or gaming god forbid) and leave the fascism out of it... but alas here we are.
Also, sincerely how can you start a thread about finding games from a certain political segment of people and not expect the conversation to lean (at best...) a little political?
Quote from: trechriron;1091512RPG.net is going to feed you a list of people they have put on "The List" - not actual people who are white nationalists.
You should probably just try out one of the two you mentioned. I hardly imagine the experiment is going to net you any usable or even noteworthy data.
It is highly likely that a white nationalist game designer can make a perfectly NOT white nationalist game. Although many of the regressive-left seem incapable of making a solid game that doesn't take the idea of equality into absurd fun-ruining extremes, it's also likely many left-leaning game designers make perfectly fun NOT left-leaning games.
In fact, there's probably at least one game you've played that was made by a true dyed-in-the-wool racist. I'm also pretty sure you've likely played a game by a fanatic regressive-leftist. You probably had no idea.
If you're trying to get data points that prove that otherwise politically-minded people can make perfectly non-political games... we already recognize that. This site is full of reasonable adult people from all sides of the political spectrum that usually could give a shit about a designer's personal beliefs. Most of us DO however give a shit about fascists trying to tell us what to do which the hand-wringing regressive left spin-mongers constantly conflate with approval of their work. Which is actually quite frustrating because we desperately would like them to focus exclusively on their works (or gaming god forbid) and leave the fascism out of it... but alas here we are.
Also, sincerely how can you start a thread about finding games from a certain political segment of people and not expect the conversation to lean (at best...) a little political?
I'm perfectly aware that a racist can make a non-racist game. I'm just curious how that game would look like. MYFAROG and RaHoWa are kinda bad and overtly racist. There is just no nuance to them. Both games basically say "Whites good, everybody else bad" and that's the end of the story. That's because those people didn't set out to make a game but rather a propaganda piece in a game form.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091507You have to admit. 4chan has made "geekdom" very attractive to alt-right.
I think before you get anywhere near to an appropriate answer, you need to tell us what definition of "alt-right" you are using.
Quote from: jeff37923;1091516I think before you get anywhere near to an appropriate answer, you need to tell us what definition of "alt-right" you are using.
I said it in my original post. A bonafide white nationalist/fascist.
I would argue that writing an RPG is the same as any other writing. Novels, technical manuals, computer language books, art design books, history books, etc.
H. P. Lovecraft was more racist (proper white upbringing and breeding, etc, was his view) in his early writing days than in his later writing days. But is there any difference seen in the stories that he wrote during those years?
I'm guessing that if you do find such a GM that you want to join their tabletop game of, you would have to be pure blooded of some kind. I doubt they'd let Blacks, Asians, Jews, etc at their gaming table.
I've stopped role-playing with people when I found out they were antisemitic. Because once they let that out there, it bleeds into how they role-play in your future game sessions.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091517I said it in my original post. A bonafide white nationalist/fascist.
Isn't that just the "regular extremist right"? Where does the "alt" part comes into play?
Quote from: Pyromancer;1091525Isn't that just the "regular extremist right"? Where does the "alt" part comes into play?
I don't know, that's how they call themselves generally nowadays. But yes, They are generally far right. Do you know someone like that in the tabletop/RPG industry?
Quote from: Pyromancer;1091525Isn't that just the "regular extremist right"? Where does the "alt" part comes into play?
The media now calls anyone that they used to call right-wing, as alt-right. Notice how the media never says left-wing or ctrl-left. That's why people ask, "What do you mean by alt-right?" It's to get clarification from outside of what the media has programmed into people.
By the way, the political spectrum is not a line. It's a circle where left and right meet each other. Nazis were socialists after all.
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1091503I'm struggling to think of any. (Setting aside the culture war accusations.)
Yeah, that's where my thinking was going. Since the original poster asked for bona fide white supremacist... that discounts any accusations of racism by people who simply want to accuse someone of racism.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1091529The media now calls anyone that they used to call right-wing, as alt-right. Notice how the media never says left-wing or ctrl-left. That's why people ask, "What do you mean by alt-right?" It's to get clarification from outside of what the media has programmed into people.
By the way, the political spectrum is not a line. It's a circle where left and right meet each other. Nazis were socialists after all.
Although i mainly agree with you, especially on the political spectrum actually being a circle, i'd say that the actual left and right never "meet" in that manner, as the two other "directions" or the "north/south" of it is Authoritarianism and Anarchy/Liberalism.
Also, Nazis were never Socialist ... but a few of them thought they were, but they actually stopped being it when they turned the Class struggle into a Racial/Cultural/Religious thing.
Yes, i know they used a few obvious Socialist/Communist methods in how they ruled, but the also used a few obvious Capitalist methods, too.
They used ANY methods they could find, to further their own agenda, so technically, they were neither left NOR right, they just used either as they saw fit.
Most people are actually somewhere inside the circle ... and i suspect there is yet another vector, an up/down, possibly Tolerance/Acceptance.
Anyway, about the actual topic, in addition to agreeing on principle with several others, i think it can be summed up like this:
No matter where you are on the political spectrum, if you hardline it too much in an rpg that you make, it will most probably not be good.
However, if you have made a good rpg, your political opinions are probably not so easy to spot.
...Unless you happen to have an already good game and then decide to virtue signal in it ... :P
Quote from: Catelf;1091534Nazis were never Socialist
See National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Quote from: Catelf;1091534Yes, i know they used a few obvious Socialist/Communist methods in how they ruled,
Look up Totalitarianism.
Quote from: Catelf;1091534but the also used a few obvious Capitalist methods, too.
They used ANY methods they could find, to further their own agenda, so technically, they were neither left NOR right, they just used either as they saw fit.
I wouldn't call invading and taking over other countries Capitalism.
Quote from: Catelf;1091534Most people are actually somewhere inside the circle ... and i suspect there is yet another vector, an up/down, possibly Tolerance/Acceptance.
There's room for everyone on the circle. Everyone fits on it somewhere. Even those that think only in skin-color and gender terms (see Leftists).
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1091536See National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Look up Totalitarianism.
I wouldn't call invading and taking over other countries Capitalism.
There's room for everyone on the circle. Everyone fits on it somewhere. Even those that think only in skin-color and gender terms (see Leftists).
So, if i call myself "Capitalist" consistently and use only a few capitalist methods, i'm a capitalist?
Great, in that case, i'm a Communist Capitalist!
Totalitarianism, use ANY MEANS AVAILABLE to keep ruling, as that is their agenda.
I don't either.
Check up what methods "the National Socialist German Workers' Party" actually used, and on whom.
Actually, you are not entirely wrong, but you will get problems defining where the Anarcho-Communist is compared to the Liberal, the Socialist and Objectivist, if you only go by a circle, like ... who is most left? Who is most right? Who is most liberal?
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091499I would like to play a game made by a genuine alt-righter. I'm talking about bonafide white nationalist. It's this morbid curiosity of mine. I'm really interested to see what kind of game that kind of person would make. The problem is, I can't find any of them in the industry. You would think that fantasy worlds about mythical heroes would be a ground zero for Alt-Righters, but that doesn't appear to be the case. So, I'm asking you. Do you know some white nationalist/Fascist that works in the RPG/Tabletop industry? Even if it's someone obscure, tell me.
I know about MYFAROG and RaHoWa, but those are not professional products and, frankly, they aren't that good from what I saw.
Also, I should add:
1. Please don't make this thread into a political debate. I'm not interested in defending nor condemning this kind of people. I'm just interested in their products (if they exist).
2. I'm not necessarily looking for alt-right games, but alt-right creators. Their games can be about anything, racist or not.
3. If you know someone fitting this description or if you are someone fitting this description, but don't want to go public with that information, send me a PM.
This is my first post on this site. What a way to start huh?
With extreme exception you're very unlikely to find a game you're looking for (other than those you listed). This is because...despite the Left's insane screeching to the contrary...Nazis aren't a large demographic. Add in our relatively small hobby and it's even smaller (despite the loonie Left's claims). I feel you already realize this and know this is a good thing.
Now, if you want a game made by a Left-leaning racist, find an number of darlings on RPG.net...
I suppose i could put on a white hooded robe and run a game, but I don't own a white hooded robe?
The labeling doesn't bother me much. Some people are good people, and some people are bad people. Call them Orcs, Drow, Goblins, whatever.... I don't care. Just call them evil non-white degenerates, if you prefer. They have a 10 in all six abilities, and they have 10 hit points. They all carry Spears, and eat Bananas. They are really good Dancers too.
Ok, I'm just kidding; but isn't that what this thread was looking for?
From what I understand the alt in alt right means non-conservative. An alternative right wing to conservatism. Often they are revolutionary in their aims or Hegelian statists in their political philosophy. They are not about conserving anything in the current system but replacing the current system with their own vision. Like socialists there are some that are incrementalists and others that are revolutionary, but anti-conservatism is what makes them alt. Conservatives are the establishment right and they are an alternative or alt type of right wing.
You can have left leaning liberals who still advocate for liberal democracy and then you can have socialists and communists who actually want to replace that with a different system. The alt-right is the same project but on the right wing. Just as there are anarchist and syndicalists and communists on the left, what exactly to replace liberal democracy with is not necessarily agreed upon among the alt-right. Some might even advocate for systems that are largely indistinguishable from left wing proposals.
I don't thing there are too many in the game publishing business. I think the only games have already been identified.
MYFROG allegedly has social media groups who actually play the game, at least according to a fan who used to post here. If you find them (which can't be that hard), then you can actually play the game and see what's up for yourself.
Racial Holy War is bizarre, and perhaps a parody, but certainly as playable as any other rules light RPG out there...if you could find a group who would want that experience. It does have one cool rule. Your gun levels up too!
As for white nationalist vs. alt right, the MSM has labeled anyone Not-Left to be Alt-Right. However, actual white nationalists (much like black nationalists, latino nationalists or asian nationalists) are happy to proudly self-identify.
Yes, I know its not actually MYFROG, but I love saying that.
Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;1091536See National Socialist German Workers' Party.
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists (https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists)
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091513I'm perfectly aware that a racist can make a non-racist game. I'm just curious how that game would look like. MYFAROG and RaHoWa are kinda bad and overtly racist. There is just no nuance to them. Both games basically say "Whites good, everybody else bad" and that's the end of the story. That's because those people didn't set out to make a game but rather a propaganda piece in a game form.
You just answered your own question why there arent any good or even so-so games of this sort. Invariably the extremist will insert that into the product and ruin it one way or another.
Now if you want games and settings that play on the nationalist attitude theres several. Rifts and Warhammer 40k leap to the forefront of that. Then there is Werewolf which has factions within the factions taking "racial purity" to various extremes and then dumbly wondering why things have gone to hell, literally.
Pretty much you wont find the sort of game you are looking for because to make a good game you need to be not an idiot. And as we have seen aplenty, both ends of the spectrum can not design a good game. They can copy and steal from others and then drag that through the dirt. But they invariably fail at some point. Or several.
And any game with even a pro white theme like Scramble For Africa recently will get mobbed by the SJW loons and branded as "promoting genocide" and the publisher pressured into dropping the game. And that is before even getting to anything these sociopaths just make up from thin air. Just read the utterly insane statements made against Dungeons & Dragons. To hear these maniacs talk that is THE most pro WHITE Colonial nationalistic ani-native game EVER!!!
I doubt you will find anything interesting or significant.
Think about it. You have already ruled out non-professional low-quality propaganda stuff.
So you want creators who are professionals and also far rightists. OK.
Professional creators need to sell their stuff, which will be of professional level.
It's difficult to produce stuff that is of professional quality and at the same time visibly influenced by a heavy political slant.
But assuming a good creator manages to do that, such stuff, even if of good quality, will sell less because of the visible right-leaning content.
So why should a rightist creator who is able to create stuff that will sell, do so in such a way as to reduce his sales?
Therefore, I'd bet that even if you manage to identify a RPG creator as far-right, it won't be so much because of his activity in the field of RPGs but thanks to his other activities; and assuming you have achieved that, my bet would also be that you will find his professional-level work isn't visibly influenced by his politics.
Naturally, all of the above hinges on one's definition of "far right" and "visibly".
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091499I would like to play a game made by a genuine alt-righter. I'm talking about bonafide white nationalist. It's this morbid curiosity of mine.
I'm curious about what you are really curious at.
I have several hypotheses, which could all be wrong. So I have to ask.
Do you want to experience a (fictitious) world as seen through the lens of a genuine alt-righter ? Do you want to GM such a game ?
Or do you simply want to play a bad guy (which would arguably be compatible with the above proposals) ?
RPGs enable us to act out (some of) our darker impulses, if we wish it. If that's what you're after, you could find a comprehensive GM and ask him/her that he/she makes you play the bad guy in some scenario.
So that you aren't too shy in your answer, I wil state that I've personallly played some of the hereafter mentioned bad guys:
- regular (Masquerade-aligned) old WOD vampire
- Sabbat old WOD Vampire
- mafia mobster
- gun-for-hire
- FBI dipshit
- religious zealot
- young adult with mental health issues who ended up killing his own mother (not truly a bad guy: she really had it coming. Okay, okay I'm kidding in bad taste ;-)
- Hillary 2016 voter (Bwahaha ! Sorry ! Couldn't help myself ! IT'S A JOKE, PEOPLE :-D !)
They were all really interesting experiences. For the record, the most disturbing ones were with the Sabbat vampire and the mentally ill fellow.
Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1091563I'm curious about what you are really curious at.
I have several hypotheses, which could all be wrong. So I have to ask.
Do you want to experience a (fictitious) world as seen through the lens of a genuine alt-righter ? Do you want to GM such a game ?
Or do you simply want to play a bad guy (which would arguably be compatible with the above proposals) ?
RPGs enable us to act out (some of) our darker impulses, if we wish it. If that's what you're after, you could find a comprehensive GM and ask him/her that he/she makes you play the bad guy in some scenario.
So that you aren't too shy in your answer, I wil state that I've personallly played some of the hereafter mentioned bad guys:
- regular (Masquerade-aligned) old WOD vampire
- Sabbat old WOD Vampire
- mafia mobster
- gun-for-hire
- FBI dipshit
- religious zealot
- young adult with mental health issues who ended up killing his own mother (not truly a bad guy: she really had it coming. Okay, okay I'm kidding in bad taste ;-)
- Hillary 2016 voter (Bwahaha ! Sorry ! Couldn't help myself ! IT'S A JOKE, PEOPLE :-D !)
They were all really interesting experiences. For the record, the most disturbing ones were with the Sabbat vampire and the mentally ill fellow.
I would say it 90% wanting to play a game made by genuine alt-righter and 10% wanting to play as a bad guy. As I said, I have a morbid curiosity.
Also, what were you thinking?! Playing as a Hillary Voter?! Do you want to single-handedly start another satanic-panic?! XD
AFAIK, MYFAROG is as playable as many small-press games. I think it's the game that Alt-Right RPGers would play.
I think Vox Day (Castalia House) was planning a game for his Alt-Hero superhero setting. Not sure if anything came of that, Google is uninformative.
Watching this thread and laughing.
As the Left goes further and further Left, more and more people are being called " alt right".
Why white nationalist?
Why not black nationalist?
Latino nationalist?
Asian nationalist?
Or are those things ok?
What is a white nationalist?
White seems obvious. Caucasian.
Nationalist?
t
[ˈnaSH(ə)nələst]
NOUN
a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
A person who puts their own country first? I would do that. I think most sane people do. How do you help others if yiur own home isn't in order? Sometimes helping others isnt in your own best interest anyway.
Look at the illegal immigrant situation. Mexico and other South American countries let these people pass, sometimes feed them or provide transportation. Why? Its good for them. But detrimental to the USA. Seems like a bit of "nationalism" to me.
America takes in more people than any other country in the world. ( most non white, and nearly 1 million a year)
This country gives more foreign aid than anyone else.
But yet we are " racist".
So why bother?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/foreign-aid-these-countries-are-the-most-generous/
https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/jun/20/marco-rubio/marco-rubio-says-us-admits-1-million-immigrants-ye/
Quote from: Blood Axe;1091568America takes in more people than any other country in the world. ( most non white, and nearly 1 million a year)
A million a year is just a rounding error for the big countries. So, good on ya for giving it a go!
Quote from: Shasarak;1091571A million a year is just a rounding error for the big countries. So, good on ya for giving it a go!
Cool story bro.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/03/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/
Wait. Are you saying that a request for racist games turned into a political debate on the VERY nature of what alt-right ACTUALLY means? Get the fuck out of here.
I applaud the effort though. I feel like it was a sincere ask, I just wish we could be more helpful. This one is a hard ask I'm afraid. :-D Also, I'm poking fun but I do believe your ask is sincere, so please don't take my snark as an attack. I absolutely support your curiosity.
[sarcasm] In related news, you should feel free to polish off your fav OSR distro, construct a world where Orcs are the oppressed minority, and then Crusade against them until the Orc blood runs thick in the countryside. No real need to have a specially designed system for it. After all Gygax and Arneson are cisgendered white fat-beards, so it would be IMPOSSIBLE for there not to be some implicit racism / toxic male privilege / misogyny in the mix anyways. Why compromise? You should get the original oppressive RPG. Nothing else stacks-up. [/sarcasm in case my tone wasn't apparent...]
I thought MYFAROG was it basically.
The reason you won't find as much as you expect is because white racist nationalism in the West is hyped up and inflated beyond any realistic proportion by the media and hysterical people; you will have a much easier time finding white people hating the fact that they are white than you will find actual white nationalists. The way people talk about it you expect to find massive white nationalist publishers out there, printing millions of copies of Mein Kampf, KKK magazines, white nationalist games and what not. In reality, you might find just a few people with some prejudices, who have no idea about PC culture or who don't care.
My wife (who is from Bangladesh) and myself moved to the USA six years ago, and the only clear racism we have encountered so far was some black religious cult guys screaming at me that I am a devil because I'm white.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091517I said it in my original post. A bonafide white nationalist/fascist.
See, that's the thing. The reality of the situation is that there are so few white nationalists/fascists in the US and the concept is so reviled, that being one is used as an insult by the general public. This is why you see the people using any means necessary to push their leftist agenda taking up that claim as a way of demonizing whomever they see fit as long as they feel that they are making progress in their glorious revolution. Because of the fact that there are so few white nationalists/fascists in the US means that there are proportionately few of them in a niche of a niche hobby and fewer still would want to publicly admit it. The only two games I can think of that might fit your requirements would be MYFAROG and RaHoWa which you already know of, even though theoretically any game can be turned into a platform of white nationalism/fascism.
Good luck, but I think your efforts would be better spent on finding people and games which you would consider fun.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091499I would like to play a game made by a genuine alt-righter. I'm talking about bonafide white nationalist. It's this morbid curiosity of mine.
I would have to agree that if you're looking for a professional-grade product whose creator simply happens to hold alt-right political opinions or sympathies, you're unlikely to get much result, simply because if a particular entertainment creator has chosen to keep his politics to himself for whatever reason, he's unlikely to (a) reveal it casually or (b) make it too easy to find incontrovertibly in his work.
It's also worth noting that people who espouse their politics fervently enough that they want to make their creative work
primarily a tool of advocacy don't, in general, choose to focus on tabletop RPGs as their medium of choice. The exposure isn't great enough. Most creators will put nods to their preferred politics into their work, but if they have any interest in the game
as a game or want to maximize audience appeal, this usually goes understated at best.
Although the politics being advertised are completely orthogonal and the game itself is still relatively amateur, I'd suggest that if you want to try a game which is unequivocally an advocacy tool first and foremost, try the evangelical Christian game
DragonRaid -- it's superficially a bog-standard fantasy game but all the "magic" is miracleworking enabled by actually quoting Bible verses in real time. It strikes me that this would be something like what you seem to be looking for, i.e. the experience of projecting yourself into an alternative headspace that you may not believe but the game creator certainly does.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091507You have to admit. 4chan has made "geekdom" very attractive to alt-right.
Or rather, a bunch of geeks who never left their basements became attracted to alt-right.
Neither fascism nor communism create much of worth in literature. Totalitarian thought prevents creativity.
Gary Gygax was religious, married, and had some kids that weren't transgendered progressives. That's alt-right nowadays, right?
Quote from: Brad;1091670Gary Gygax was religious, married, and had some kids that weren't transgendered progressives. That's alt-right nowadays, right?
Gary Gygax apparently was a Libertarian (this was in his FBI file), which apparently according to the NYTimes, would make him alt-right (as they recently ran a story citing Milton Friedman as an alt-right figure)
here you go
[video=youtube;u0DkjnxZNY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0DkjnxZNY8[/youtube]
unfortunately, you'll need to know japanese to actually play it though
Quote from: JeremyR;1091697Gary Gygax apparently was a Libertarian (this was in his FBI file), which apparently according to the NYTimes, would make him alt-right (as they recently ran a story citing Milton Friedman as an alt-right figure)
Gygax had an FBI file? Wow, what a joke. Thanks for letting us know. That's interesting........
I guess D&D was verrrry dangerous after all? Wow. FreakingBigIdiots.
Quote from: Razor 007;1091820Gygax had an FBI file? Wow, what a joke. Thanks for letting us know. That's interesting........
I guess D&D was verrrry dangerous after all? Wow. FreakingBigIdiots.
You might want to read The Pulling Report (http://www.rpgstudies.net/stackpole/pulling_report.html) for a better understanding of the times back then.
Quote from: Razor 007;1091820Gygax had an FBI file?
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/23/15864590/fbi-dungeons-and-dragons-unabomber-gary-gygax-foia?fbclid=IwAR0zJP30LE5NtNfxkBEzaepDaHxNJdNOirCIaPLRlyMJ5jODe-YdT-1LrRE
Interesting read.
It's relatively easy to get an FBI file. It really doesn't mean a whole lot (on its own)... but Gygax's was more than just any random file.
(EDIT: For example, I have never been arrested, investigated, or charged with a crime and I have an FBI file. Because of my employment. It's a routine thing and very boring.)
Quote from: goblinslayer;1091814here you go
[video=youtube;u0DkjnxZNY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0DkjnxZNY8[/youtube]
unfortunately, you'll need to know japanese to actually play it though
I don't mean to be rude, but the video is way too long and very boring. Can you give me a TL;DW or the time stamp of the part that interests me (the part where he mentions the creator is alt-right)?
MYFAROG is about all you'll find. Racial Holy War is hardly a game at all. Believe me I've looked into it as I try to add controversial books to my collection.
Quote from: Hopladamus;1091889I don't mean to be rude, but the video is way too long and very boring. Can you give me a TL;DW or the time stamp of the part that interests me (the part where he mentions the creator is alt-right)?
Anything that the left doesn't like is labeled alt-right and Goblin Slayer is a manga/anime that get sjw's panties in a wad. This is a game based on that. Obviously I am a big fan and really wish I could get a copy of this in English.
https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/10/15/goblin-slayer-anime-controversy-explained/
QuoteGoblin Slayer is a series of light novels first created by Kumo Kagyu with illustrations provided by Noboru Kannatsuki back in 2016. The series tells the story of Priestess, a naive girl who has just left her congregation in order to become an adventurer. She joins with a party of rookie adventurers on their next mission to slay some goblins, only for the mission to quickly go south as her entire party is poisoned, maimed, raped, and brutalized in many ways.
The titular Goblin Slayer, a silent man who never takes off his armor, then shows up and rescues her by slaughtering all the goblins in sight. It's his goal in life to slay them all, and he won't stop until every one of them is dead. Even the goblin children, who Goblin Slayer argues aren't inherently good (and their animalistic nature has been explored further through the manga adaptation).