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I hate Clerics - What OSR/Retros do without them?

Started by Kaiu Keiichi, February 21, 2013, 12:44:07 PM

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#105
April 20, 2013, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: Baron;647395Hmm. But I've found that most players (or even non-players) can define good and evil relative to a specific culture without too much difficulty.

I tend to agree with apparition13; many (most?) gamer arguments are about definitions of Law vs Chaos, and the relevant behavior, rather than the Good/Evil axis.

Sersiously?! It seems like law is law and chaos is chaos.  Whereas there's all kinds of potential ambiguities in "good" or "evil".

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#106
April 21, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;647693Sersiously?! It seems like law is law and chaos is chaos.  Whereas there's all kinds of potential ambiguities in "good" or "evil".

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This discussion has moved here: Law and Chaos as "real things".

But I'm interested in your reply. I can say "gloop is gloop, and florp is florp", but unless you know what I mean by "gloop" and "florp", you won't understand me. So what do you mean by "law" and "chaos", and how are they less ambiguous than good or evil?
 

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#107
April 22, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: apparition13;647893This discussion has moved here: Law and Chaos as "real things".

But I'm interested in your reply. I can say "gloop is gloop, and florp is florp", but unless you know what I mean by "gloop" and "florp", you won't understand me. So what do you mean by "law" and "chaos", and how are they less ambiguous than good or evil?

Law is the universal tendency toward order and structure; chaos the universal tendency toward entropy and decay.  These are real universal forces, things seen in nature and not just in man, so I take them to be far more unambiguous than "good" and "evil".

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April 22, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
Update - for my upcoming ACKS game, we'll be using an all gender version of the priestess class from the Companion, as well as Bladedancer. Thanks everyone for your input so far.
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#109
April 22, 2013, 11:02:35 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;648214Law is the universal tendency toward order and structure; chaos the universal tendency toward entropy and decay.  These are real universal forces, things seen in nature and not just in man, so I take them to be far more unambiguous than "good" and "evil".

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How does that work in play? How do you roleplay a lawful N/PC differently than a chaotic one?
 

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#110
April 23, 2013, 02:14:06 AM
Quote from: apparition13;648308How does that work in play? How do you roleplay a lawful N/PC differently than a chaotic one?

I think this line of discussion is best continued over on the other thread; ask me there, if you like.
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