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[Chargen] Concept first, then random attributes is bad design

Started by Kiero, April 27, 2025, 06:56:32 AM

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weirdguy564

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April 29, 2025, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 29, 2025, 01:48:58 PMl
Unfortunately, I was reading a licensed system. And as above, my issue wasn't simply that it was random, but that the instructions, to come up with the type of character you want to play first, (knowing there's a shit-load of random stuff immediately after) was stupid.

That game rulebook is hardly the first badly written game to be sold in the market.

Remember, I played Palladium Books growing up, and we liked it too. 
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Spooky

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Today at 12:42:21 AM
Quote from: Kiero on April 29, 2025, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: Spooky on April 29, 2025, 09:04:53 AMPlay GURPS dude

Unfortunately, I was reading a licensed system. And as above, my issue wasn't simply that it was random, but that the instructions, to come up with the type of character you want to play first, (knowing there's a shit-load of random stuff immediately after) was stupid.

That IS fucking stupid.

My solution is still to play GURPS. Reason being you come up with a character concept then build it out in as much detail as you want to.
Motoko Kusanagi is Deunan Knute for basic queers

Spooky

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Today at 12:47:36 AM
Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 29, 2025, 03:48:43 PM
Quote from: Kiero on April 29, 2025, 01:48:58 PMl
Unfortunately, I was reading a licensed system. And as above, my issue wasn't simply that it was random, but that the instructions, to come up with the type of character you want to play first, (knowing there's a shit-load of random stuff immediately after) was stupid.

That game rulebook is hardly the first badly written game to be sold in the market.

Remember, I played Palladium Books growing up, and we liked it too.

Yep, us too. Heroes Unlimited was my first. We'd just make guys with sub machineguns and jeeps with machineguns/missiles on them. Ninjas and Superspies was a nice addition

They were "bad" games but its all we knew/had and played the shit out of them. I spent the most time on Recon, my buddy loved Rifts.

I lost all the books at some point. Rebought Revised Recon a few years back - man that is a horrible game! The combat system makes no sense at all. The miniatures rules in the back are even more non sensical but we played and had a lot of fun somehow.

Recently rebought TMNT and ran a one shot. It reminded me of the main system. The main Palladium combat system is really neat I think. Much better than DnD.

Motoko Kusanagi is Deunan Knute for basic queers
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