Quote from: Simlasa;822070I haven't really seen that. I know it's a popular stereotype though (ageism, when are the SJW going to go stand up against that prejudice?).

Well, I'm 52, so I'm commenting on my contemporaries. I run both a youth group and an adult group. The youth group will jump on anything. With the adults, the main word is "entirely." They'll run variants on the D&D theme and mechanics, which includes a LOT of games. But I do think that mainly due to time constraints, jobs and such, that getting into anything complex or radically different just isn't something everyone is up for.

Have you noticed that people play the same type of character every time?

While maybe not "themselves", at least basically "my fighter" or "my elven thief" instead of a completely different character than the last couple.

In my youth I labored under the impression that people like me that gamed were open to new ideas and cultures. Over the years I just came to see "Tolken reskined" and people replaying their favorite character.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there is anything Wrong with it, just an observation.
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The groups I have DMed for have been pretty open to trying new games.

But.

Theyd really prefer to stick to one game once things get rolling.

When I was the club master for the group in my hometown though we changed games fairly often. About once every 3-4 sessions. Mostly cycling between Robotech, Beyond the Supernatural, Marvel Super Heroes, and Torg.

Quote from: Simlasa;822125I certainly wouldn't advocate that... but I remain skeptical that trying a session or two of a new game is much of a price to pay when your gamer buddy buys the thing and want's to give it a whirl.

I don't know upwards of 10-12 hours of my time that I could be spending doing something I want to do or need to do is a pretty significant investment to in order to cater to someone else's whim. They didn't consult me before they bought the game, after all, just assumed I would be there and if they really want to play I'm not the only gamer in the world, they can get together with some others. They don't have to have me there to play.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;822049I'll try any* game at least once.

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*=obvious exceptions apply : FATAL, RaHoWa, Maid, etc.

i have been meaning to pick up racial holy war for an insight into the minds of the authors for villain ideas.

if i told my players i would never run maid i think i would be flayed, drawn and quartered

Quote from: RunningLaser;822067This is what I've found.  Trying different rpg's isn't like trying a new food- there's a time investment involved.  The older you get, the less free time you have, and the that time becomes more precious.

and then you retire and suddenly you have all this free time again

Quote from: Greentongue;822144Have you noticed that people play the same type of character every time?

While maybe not "themselves", at least basically "my fighter" or "my elven thief" instead of a completely different character than the last couple.

In my youth I labored under the impression that people like me that gamed were open to new ideas and cultures. Over the years I just came to see "Tolken reskined" and people replaying their favorite character.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there is anything Wrong with it, just an observation.
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nothing wrong with having a type at all i will occasionally play something difrent but most of my characters are neutral good human wizard. of course i do make a few changes in personality but values will stay mostly the same.

Quote from: Bren;822136What's that buddy done for me lately?

Maybe something like host/GM games for the group for a few hours every week for the past few years... maybe when he didn't feel like it, maybe when he wished the group was playing something else.

I used to belong to a wargames club and there was a general mindset that if someone showed up with a new game and wanted to try it out we oughtta, at some point, give it a try. Just a polite custom that I'd benefit from if I happened to show up someday with something new I wanted to try out.
Sometimes yeah, "Hey, this game kinda sucks! Let's play X next time."... sometimes, "Hey, that was better than I expected! Let's play again next week!"

Maybe I'm mistakenly assuming you're friends with the guys you roleplay with...

Quote from: Greentongue;822144Have you noticed that people play the same type of character every time?

While maybe not "themselves", at least basically "my fighter" or "my elven thief" instead of a completely different character than the last couple.

That's why random elements during the character creation are so helpful - it gets people to think outside of their usual comfort zone and the self-imposed restrictions. Repetitiveness  always becomes boring, both for the player in question (who might not even recognize this) and for the rest of the group as well. If the players become too fixated on playing the same character with minor variations, it's time to roll stats in order.

I consider myself open-minded, but I also know what I like and at this point in my life it doesn't take an in-depth exploration of something for me to know whether I'd enjoy it or not. A short description will do.

Quote from: Beagle;822193That's why random elements during the character creation are so helpful - it gets people to think outside of their usual comfort zone and the self-imposed restrictions. Repetitiveness  always becomes boring, both for the player in question (who might not even recognize this) and for the rest of the group as well. If the players become too fixated on playing the same character with minor variations, it's time to roll stats in order.

No thanks. Randomness in chargen can go fuck itself.

Quote from: Kiero;822200No thanks. Randomness in chargen can go fuck itself.

So much for open-mindedness.

Quote from: Greentongue;822144Have you noticed that people play the same type of character every time?

While maybe not "themselves", at least basically "my fighter" or "my elven thief" instead of a completely different character than the last couple.

In my youth I labored under the impression that people like me that gamed were open to new ideas and cultures. Over the years I just came to see "Tolken reskined" and people replaying their favorite character.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there is anything Wrong with it, just an observation.
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Some do, some don't. Gamers come in all shades and hues. I know gamers who play the same basic archetype, no matter what the game, I know some who deliberately try to play something new every game. I know some who base their characters on characters from TV shows/films/books etc they happen to be enjoying at the moment the game starts. And I know players who just like to roll up some stats and let the character develope naturally over the course of a game. I don't see anything wrong with any of these approaches.

Quote from: Beagle;822201So much for open-mindedness.

if hating random stats is close minded i dont wanna be tolerant

Quote from: Greentongue;822144Have you noticed that people play the same type of character every time?

Some do. Some don’t. It's not too surprising that different people differ in their preferences. It would be an unusual thing if they didn't.

Quote from: Simlasa;822190Maybe something like host/GM games for the group for a few hours every week for the past few years... maybe when he didn't feel like it, maybe when he wished the group was playing something else.

Then he should have manned up and owned his own choices rather than thinking that his choice to be Mr. Pleaser obligated other people to do what he wants them to do.

Maybe they felt they were sometimes obliging the GM by showing up to play in his games rather than doing some other thing they enjoy instead. That doesn't obligate the GM to keep running something he doesn't enjoy. Similarly the GM running something he doesn't enjoy doesn't obligate them to play something he thinks he would enjoy more.

QuoteI used to belong to a wargames club and there was a general mindset that if someone showed up with a new game and wanted to try it out we oughtta, at some point, give it a try. Just a polite custom that I'd benefit from if I happened to show up someday with something new I wanted to try out.
Sometimes yeah, "Hey, this game kinda sucks! Let's play X next time."... sometimes, "Hey, that was better than I expected! Let's play again next week!"

Since that was the social expectation of the group that was what people expected. Sounds like you aren’t playing with that group and this new group has different social expectations. It’s ironic that you are complaining about them not being open to something new when you, yourself, are not open to their social expectations. It's also interesting that your example of what you prefer is club play not than a closed group of friends. Might have something to do with the club having different social expectations than the closed group of friends has.

QuoteMaybe I'm mistakenly assuming you're friends with the guys you roleplay with...

Maybe you are mistaking your expectation of what being friends means with some universal truism. Just because people are your friends it doesn’t give you a right to expect them to do what you want regardless of their desires. That is an expectation one might have of servants, not friends.