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How Many Hit Points Do You Like?

Started by RPGPundit, July 12, 2018, 06:40:30 AM

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S'mon

Quote from: AsenRG;1054493Yeah, exactly. And what is, from the PCs point of view, the point of doing unnecessary things?
Hence, tactics become "unnecessary" and the grognards complain;)!

Yup, we fully agree I think. Balanced encounters winnable without optimised tactics = no optimised tactics.

Like, on Master level my Skyrim PC sneaks around dropping enemies with crossbow sniper fire from hiding. On Adept level I just run around hitting things with my greatsword. :)

S'mon

Quote from: RPGPundit;1054785Tactics can certainly be effective in 5e. It's just that a lot of the newbs tend to not really do tactics.

My mountain troll annihilators were a pair of players who often GM, one was a grognard I've known for 15 years and she could make a Pathfinder Ranger more powerful than the Wizard or Cleric. :)

AsenRG

Quote from: Steven Mitchell;1054507In the first fight, it doesn't much matter.  (Though in at least the 5E version, being on the receiving end of an ambush can hurt.)  Make a habit of it, you'd better have one of the GMs playing a softer adventure path style, where they let you rest with no consequences whenever you want.  In my games, the players will go to great lengths to set up an ambush and to avoid being set up.  Because they know this fight might be the only one in the area, or it might be the first of several, and I will pounce on them wounded and take them out.
IME, most players assume that if you're doing balanced encounters, they'd also have time to rest:). And this is actually fair. If they have to fight several encounters back-to-back, well, that's just a single encounter with timed waves of enemies and maybe changing terrain.
So I prefer to set the expectations straight, and not balance anything;).

Quote from: S'mon;1054802Yup, we fully agree I think. Balanced encounters winnable without optimised tactics = no optimised tactics.

Like, on Master level my Skyrim PC sneaks around dropping enemies with crossbow sniper fire from hiding. On Adept level I just run around hitting things with my greatsword. :)
Exactly, which is a pity IMO!
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