How dangerous is Steve Jackson Games?

Omega · May 26, 2015, 10:30:41 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;833330I think SJG still secretly wishes it was so badass as to be on the radar.

They sure love bullying the little guy.

ThatChrisGuy · May 26, 2015, 10:47:58 PM

Quote from: Omega;833464They sure love bullying the little guy.

What's this a reference to?

Omega · May 26, 2015, 11:44:18 PM

Quote from: ThatChrisGuy;833467What's this a reference to?

Couple of incidents over the last decade or so. The most recent one from a few months back where they pretty much told some guy who asked if he could resize some counters for personal use that No. He could not. Not counting the Kwaicha retheme incident as that was mostly justified. Calling the guy a criminal for making a free fan version of a game that had been OOP for 10 years was a bit over the top though.

YMMV of course. Some SJG fans applaud their actions as just and right.

To touch back on Pundits comment though.
By SJGs own admission anything that isnt Munchkin is an afterthought at best now.

thedungeondelver · May 27, 2015, 08:24:54 AM

Quote from: 5 Stone Games;833032Actually they got raided over GURPS Cyberpunk which the FBI at the time thought was a hacking manual , the story is here

The other game you are conflating was Killer which is a kind of assassination LARP played back in the day when the US wasn't so brittle.

TSR != SJG. I'm talking about a different company, different incident.

dsivis · May 27, 2015, 01:01:17 PM

Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers also predicted the War on Terror.

Warboss Squee · May 27, 2015, 02:50:10 PM

Quote from: dsivis;833557Paul Verhoeven's Starship Troopers also predicted the War on Terror.

There's a cartoon based off of Heinlein's book, but I don't remember a movie...

Bren · May 27, 2015, 03:30:33 PM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;833572There's a cartoon based off of Heinlein's book, but I don't remember a movie...

Very loosely based.

David Johansen · May 27, 2015, 07:18:54 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;833330I think SJG still secretly wishes it was so badass as to be on the radar.

I think they can't hear you over the fountains of money pouring out of Munchkin.

YourSwordisMine · May 27, 2015, 07:21:44 PM

I got banned from the SJG forums for asking when Hot Lead was going to be released...

Does that count?

I still have Hot Lead miniatures...

Warboss Squee · May 27, 2015, 08:06:33 PM

Quote from: Bren;833576Very loosely based.

I was being sarcastic. That movie was an abortion.

Bren · May 27, 2015, 09:48:09 PM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;833604I was being sarcastic. That movie was an abortion.

That's a relief.

Verhoven's satire of the original was way unsubtle and didn't really seem intended as a total parody - the action is obviously supposed to be actiony. Also he skipped the powered armor, which was far and away the best part of Heinlein's story so a big strike against for that. But to be fair, Heinlein took himself so seriously that in some of his works he comes across to me as self parody.

Ddogwood · May 27, 2015, 11:17:17 PM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;833604I was being sarcastic. That movie was an abortion.

I thought it was brilliant. Paul Verhoeven likes making films that try to trick the audience into cheering for the fascists.

It had almost nothing to do with the book but it was a brilliant critique of modern society. It's one of the few gory action movies that has actually gotten better with age.

Omega · May 28, 2015, 04:21:48 AM

Quote from: Warboss Squee;833572There's a cartoon based off of Heinlein's book, but I don't remember a movie...

One anime OVA series, Uchū no Senshi, and one CG series, Roughnecks.

Oh and at least 4 movies supposedly about the book, but not.

Quote from: Bren;833613That's a relief.

Verhoven's satire of the original was way unsubtle and didn't really seem intended as a total parody - the action is obviously supposed to be actiony. Also he skipped the powered armor, which was far and away the best part of Heinlein's story so a big strike against for that. But to be fair, Heinlein took himself so seriously that in some of his works he comes across to me as self parody.

Verhoven didnt even read the book. He hated it without even reading it and just slapped the title on an existing unrelated script that he hadnt been able to sell.

Back on topic.

The new Car Wars is still meeting with grumbles over the backhanded way it was handled. Only special backers of the Ogre KS get to have any say or vote in how the new CW develops or changes. But it will probably also do well on the upcoming KS.

Ralph The Dog · May 28, 2015, 10:29:07 AM

Dan Jenkins had a character mention blowing up the World Trade Center in Semi Tough, so this isn't a new idea by any stretch of the imagination.

ThatChrisGuy · May 28, 2015, 12:04:11 PM

Quote from: YourSwordisMine;833602I got banned from the SJG forums for asking when Hot Lead was going to be released...

Does that count?

I still have Hot Lead miniatures...

I've snarked at them a few times over there about Hot Lead myself and didn't get as much as a warning. Just some glares I could feel all the way from Austin.