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Author Topic: Help with 1920's-1980's Income and equipment tables?  (Read 992 times)

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« on: June 03, 2020, 12:39:32 PM »
What the tin says:

I'm trying to have those tables for a game I'm doing, so you can choose the time period for the setting.

I know where to find them for the 1920's but I can't for the life of me find them for the other decades, even an inflation formula would work.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 12:56:30 PM »
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What the tin says:

I'm trying to have those tables for a game I'm doing, so you can choose the time period for the setting.

I know where to find them for the 1920's but I can't for the life of me find them for the other decades, even an inflation formula would work.

For the US? https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/article/one-hundred-years-of-price-change-the-consumer-price-index-and-the-american-inflation-experience.htm

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 01:02:59 PM »
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For the US? https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2014/article/one-hundred-years-of-price-change-the-consumer-price-index-and-the-american-inflation-experience.htm

Thanks! Having the decade total and the annual total sure helps!
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 08:16:34 PM »
Early editions of Call of Cthulhu and various articles thereafter had lists taken from similar sources for the 20s-30s.
Example, the average wage for a worker in 1920 was listed as 1300$ yearly. A used car is listed as costing 250$, new car at 1000$, and so on. The quality of the lists has varied from edition to edition.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 08:26:37 PM »
ICE's And a Ten Foot Pole is a collection of price lists for various ages.  It's a great book.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 08:42:19 PM »
If you are a really motivated, some libraries have old Sears catalogs on microfilm/microfiche.

Of course, Sears couldn't possibly put them online
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 09:11:18 PM »
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ICE's And a Ten Foot Pole is a collection of price lists for various ages.  It's a great book.

Thanks! Hunting it down!
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2020, 09:11:51 PM »
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Early editions of Call of Cthulhu and various articles thereafter had lists taken from similar sources for the 20s-30s.
Example, the average wage for a worker in 1920 was listed as 1300$ yearly. A used car is listed as costing 250$, new car at 1000$, and so on. The quality of the lists has varied from edition to edition.

Thanks, not giving money to Chaosium tho.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2020, 09:14:01 PM »
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If you are a really motivated, some libraries have old Sears catalogs on microfilm/microfiche.

Of course, Sears couldn't possibly put them online

Yeah... I'm not THAT motivated.
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2020, 08:43:05 PM »
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Yeah... I'm not THAT motivated.

Try this. A 1923 Sears Catalog. First couple hundred pages are ladies and a few kids apparel then some mens apparel, then more apparel.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101066805043&view=1up&seq=10

hah. My Grandparents had one of these or something very similar. Didnt know what it was for back then. And a Franklin Sewing Machine desk. God they got decades of use out of that! Check out the book selection on pace 645. Shotguns and rifles starting on page 920.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2020, 10:09:55 PM »
Going through just that one catalog I was struck by the sheer amount of DIY tools and materials in there. Make and repair you own shoes, belts, etc.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2020, 04:44:18 PM »
When I was trying to put together an equipment list for a 1690s pirate game, one good source for values of things during that time period was estate sale records.

Googling around today I also found this list of historic prices from 1900 to 2014:

https://mclib.info/reference/local-history-genealogy/historic-prices/

There are also a couple reference books I found that seem interesting:

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2020, 05:12:33 PM »
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When I was trying to put together an equipment list for a 1690s pirate game, one good source for values of things during that time period was estate sale records.

Googling around today I also found this list of historic prices from 1900 to 2014:

https://mclib.info/reference/local-history-genealogy/historic-prices/

There are also a couple reference books I found that seem interesting:


Thank you very much!
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2020, 09:03:00 AM »
I picked up both of those Value of a Dollar books for myself, and leafing through the section on the 1600s has me seriously thinking about revisiting my D6 pirates game.

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 11:49:06 PM »
I know that CoC 5e had price lists for items in the early 1990s (what was then the 'present day' setting).
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