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yosemitemike

Quote from: Aglondir on May 12, 2024, 07:11:43 PMIs that a quote from G-troll? (starting with "I was looking...")

Yes.  It's from a topic he started on TBP.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
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swzl

Quote from: yosemitemike on May 12, 2024, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on May 12, 2024, 07:11:43 PMIs that a quote from G-troll? (starting with "I was looking...")

Yes.  It's from a topic he started on TBP.

I am sorry to see that. Dark Dungeon X is released under the OGL and Public Domain. I have looted, err, adapted parts of that for my home system. So I plan on separating the artist from the art. To bad. I really enjoyed his earlier work. See https://gurbintrollgames.wordpress.com/2023/10/01/light-fantasy-kickstarter-is-live/ from his website for the full, unvarnished version. So the decent into madness begins.

Jason Coplen

Quote from: Aglondir on May 12, 2024, 07:11:43 PM
Quote from: yosemitemike on May 12, 2024, 12:00:13 AMSo, Gurbintroll has decided that Dark Dungeons is regressive, problematic and in need of a sensitivity reading.

I was looking through Dark Dungeons today, and after having done Light Fantasy it is looking positively regressive.

It's not just the simple things like the race-as-class and the monsters, it's deeper things like the whole chapter on settling the wilderness and building a domain is pretty damn colonialist and there are things there like Raise Dead only working on humans and demihumans because other humanoids don't have souls (only spirits), and other humanoids not having proper clerics and magic-users, only lesser shamans and sorcerers (and of course that last one is a double-whammy in that not only are orcs and the like given shamans instead of clerics, those shamans are objectively inferior to clerics).

Now this is all stuff that the game inherited from its BECMI and RC roots, but that's not the point. It just makes me cringe when I read it now.

So, since next year is going to be the game's 15th anniversary, I thought I'd start a major overhaul of the game.

Some thoughts include:

1) Lose the race-as-class and convert those classes into Light Fantasy style classes, where ancestry has no mechanical effect on the game.

2) Lose all the monsters that are actually different ancestries of people.

3) It's not going to focus on the weird like Light Fantasy does. The feel will still be more traditional D&D (although it will still have immortals and flying ships and the like).

4) Give everything as good a sensitivity reading as I can, to see if anything else is problematic.

Hey Yosemitemike,

Is that a quote from G-troll? (starting with "I was looking...")

I'm not Mike, but it's a quote. I saw the same dumb fucking post.
Running: HarnMaster, Barbaric 2E!, and EABA.

jeff37923

Quote from: swzl on May 13, 2024, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on May 12, 2024, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on May 12, 2024, 07:11:43 PMIs that a quote from G-troll? (starting with "I was looking...")

Yes.  It's from a topic he started on TBP.

I am sorry to see that. Dark Dungeon X is released under the OGL and Public Domain. I have looted, err, adapted parts of that for my home system. So I plan on separating the artist from the art. To bad. I really enjoyed his earlier work. See https://gurbintrollgames.wordpress.com/2023/10/01/light-fantasy-kickstarter-is-live/ from his website for the full, unvarnished version. So the decent into madness begins.

Is any of Dark Dungeons useful or did the rot set in back then? I was thinking of grabbing a copy.
"Meh."

swzl

Quote from: jeff37923 on May 13, 2024, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: swzl on May 13, 2024, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on May 12, 2024, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Aglondir on May 12, 2024, 07:11:43 PMIs that a quote from G-troll? (starting with "I was looking...")

Yes.  It's from a topic he started on TBP.

I am sorry to see that. Dark Dungeon X is released under the OGL and Public Domain. I have looted, err, adapted parts of that for my home system. So I plan on separating the artist from the art. To bad. I really enjoyed his earlier work. See https://gurbintrollgames.wordpress.com/2023/10/01/light-fantasy-kickstarter-is-live/ from his website for the full, unvarnished version. So the decent into madness begins.

Is any of Dark Dungeons useful or did the rot set in back then? I was thinking of grabbing a copy.

I don't see any issues with his work through Dark Dungeon X. They seem to be adaptions from the originals.

yosemitemike

Quote from: jeff37923 on May 13, 2024, 12:44:49 PMIs any of Dark Dungeons useful or did the rot set in back then? I was thinking of grabbing a copy.

The original post is from 5-2-24.  I don't think they have had time to actually implement these changes and come out with a new version yet.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.