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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2021, 06:10:29 PM »
With all the sparkles, at least one of them has to be a vampire.

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #196 on: July 25, 2021, 06:16:23 PM »
Like Tubesock, I also have an annecdotal story about once having to do training at work which proves that because O'Keefe takes peoples own words and uses it against them without changing them to fit my narrative therefore he can not be trusted.

Might also have something to do with O'Keefe, y'know, lying about ACORN (as determined by the California State AG and the GAO - I know, I know, they're all "deep state" lol),

Yep, lying about ACORN.

Proves it!
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #197 on: July 25, 2021, 07:38:52 PM »
Like Tubesock, I also have an annecdotal story about once having to do training at work which proves that because O'Keefe takes peoples own words and uses it against them without changing them to fit my narrative therefore he can not be trusted.

Might also have something to do with O'Keefe, y'know, lying about ACORN (as determined by the California State AG and the GAO - I know, I know, they're all "deep state" lol),

Yep, lying about ACORN.

Proves it!

And Planned Parenthood.

And The New Jersey Teachers' Union.

And Medicaid.

And NPR.

And voting procedures in New Hampshire.

And Hillary Clinton's campaign donations.

I could go on, there is much more, but here's really no point. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of: believing or disbelieving someone based solely on whether or not they uphold your favored narrative. I don't mistrust O'Keefe and Project Veritas because of their politics. I mistrust them because they have such a long and established track record of manipulation and outright lies that trusting them would be foolish. This is not subjective. These are simply the facts of O'Keefe's behavior. Hell, even in cases where it looks as though he may have really been onto something, like with Rep. Moran's son, PV refused to cooperate with authorities. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their claims. About the only thing he probably ever got right was catching ABC out for not running a story on Jeffrey Epstein. Stopped clock and all that.


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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #198 on: July 25, 2021, 07:46:35 PM »



... Is it just that the SJWs were almost invariably such ugly-on-the-inside hags they never got asked by anyone themselves? I’m thinking “yes”, but I’m open to other interpretations of their weird prom fetish.

What their prom would really look like:



I think it's safe to say no SJW will be the next one in line to split the atom.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #199 on: July 25, 2021, 07:54:35 PM »
Like Tubesock, I also have an annecdotal story about once having to do training at work which proves that because O'Keefe takes peoples own words and uses it against them without changing them to fit my narrative therefore he can not be trusted.

Might also have something to do with O'Keefe, y'know, lying about ACORN (as determined by the California State AG and the GAO - I know, I know, they're all "deep state" lol),

Yep, lying about ACORN.

Proves it!

And Planned Parenthood.

And The New Jersey Teachers' Union.

And Medicaid.

And NPR.

And voting procedures in New Hampshire.

And Hillary Clinton's campaign donations.

I could go on, there is much more, but here's really no point. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of: believing or disbelieving someone based solely on whether or not they uphold your favored narrative. I don't mistrust O'Keefe and Project Veritas because of their politics. I mistrust them because they have such a long and established track record of manipulation and outright lies that trusting them would be foolish. This is not subjective. These are simply the facts of O'Keefe's behavior. Hell, even in cases where it looks as though he may have really been onto something, like with Rep. Moran's son, PV refused to cooperate with authorities. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their claims. About the only thing he probably ever got right was catching ABC out for not running a story on Jeffrey Epstein. Stopped clock and all that.

It said that on CNN so it must be right.

Because of their track record that is.
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« Reply #200 on: July 25, 2021, 07:58:45 PM »
Like Tubesock, I also have an annecdotal story about once having to do training at work which proves that because O'Keefe takes peoples own words and uses it against them without changing them to fit my narrative therefore he can not be trusted.

Might also have something to do with O'Keefe, y'know, lying about ACORN (as determined by the California State AG and the GAO - I know, I know, they're all "deep state" lol),

Yep, lying about ACORN.

Proves it!

And Planned Parenthood.

And The New Jersey Teachers' Union.

And Medicaid.

And NPR.

And voting procedures in New Hampshire.

And Hillary Clinton's campaign donations.

I could go on, there is much more, but here's really no point. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of: believing or disbelieving someone based solely on whether or not they uphold your favored narrative. I don't mistrust O'Keefe and Project Veritas because of their politics. I mistrust them because they have such a long and established track record of manipulation and outright lies that trusting them would be foolish. This is not subjective. These are simply the facts of O'Keefe's behavior. Hell, even in cases where it looks as though he may have really been onto something, like with Rep. Moran's son, PV refused to cooperate with authorities. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their claims. About the only thing he probably ever got right was catching ABC out for not running a story on Jeffrey Epstein. Stopped clock and all that.

It said that on CNN so it must be right.

Because of their track record that is.

That's not where I got the info (can't remember the last time I watched CNN), nor would it be the only source for such info, even if it were. But, thanks for proving my point.

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #201 on: July 25, 2021, 09:28:02 PM »
But you're right. I should probably ban Reckall and yourself for posting about it. But instead I'll just tell both of you not to post any off-topic politics in this thread again.

The problem, as I see it, is that it is almost impossible to separate Wokeism both from his general impact on popular culture as a whole and the political discourse as a whole.


I've been saying this for a long time.

More than once accusations of "ITS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOKE! KEEEEEL IIIIT!" get thrown around at stuff that either isnt, or is so small its completely meaningless.

And as said before. The problem is the woke cult pretty much forces us into this mindset where we MUST scrutinize everything and try and parse out if its legit, or not. Other problem is some are so paranoid they see SJWs where there isnt. Other other problem is that the SJW stuff way outnumbers the legit stuff now so finding the real in the sea of unreal is a task.

This is made all the worse from outrage marketing baiting which is all the rage now. Which damns product we'd have otherwise possibly supported.

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #202 on: July 25, 2021, 10:46:16 PM »
Like Tubesock, I also have an annecdotal story about once having to do training at work which proves that because O'Keefe takes peoples own words and uses it against them without changing them to fit my narrative therefore he can not be trusted.

Might also have something to do with O'Keefe, y'know, lying about ACORN (as determined by the California State AG and the GAO - I know, I know, they're all "deep state" lol),

Yep, lying about ACORN.

Proves it!

And Planned Parenthood.

And The New Jersey Teachers' Union.

And Medicaid.

And NPR.

And voting procedures in New Hampshire.

And Hillary Clinton's campaign donations.

I could go on, there is much more, but here's really no point. You are doing exactly what you accuse me of: believing or disbelieving someone based solely on whether or not they uphold your favored narrative. I don't mistrust O'Keefe and Project Veritas because of their politics. I mistrust them because they have such a long and established track record of manipulation and outright lies that trusting them would be foolish. This is not subjective. These are simply the facts of O'Keefe's behavior. Hell, even in cases where it looks as though he may have really been onto something, like with Rep. Moran's son, PV refused to cooperate with authorities. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their claims. About the only thing he probably ever got right was catching ABC out for not running a story on Jeffrey Epstein. Stopped clock and all that.

You do realise the the whistleblower sought them out to make the story public, not the other way around right?

If you want to plainly state that the whistleblower is lying, fabricated the event and is fleecing everyone, go right ahead and just say it if that's what your trying to vaguely do.  It's annoying beating around the bush on the subject.

<edit> I see you did initially say something to that effect earlier, so disregard the paragraph above.  I'm not going to erase what I said initially as I'm not a big fan of things just disappearing from posts <edit>

If it was a sham, then Hasbro would have been very quick to point this out.  I haven't seen any evidence as such, other than their lackluster 'it does not reflect our views, as we seem to have no actual meaningful stance to take' nonsense.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #203 on: July 25, 2021, 11:24:11 PM »

If it was a sham, then Hasbro would have been very quick to point this out. 

I don't think Hasbro has done anything in reaction. Which is what they've done with most controversies regardless of which side they were on with them.

I do think there is some response, from someone in position to know, that it might not have been mandatory but was purely voluntarily (one among many voluntary lectures they make available on a wide variety of topics) and the decision for a group to attend might have been left to a group leader? And as a contractor, he wasn't a leader so he might not have been given a choice but that doesn't mean Hasbro was making that decision for him either?

IF it was voluntary and not even well attended but just was a thing his small group did, this becomes a much bigger non-issue to me. There is a huge difference in my mind between forcing all employees to follow a policy from a mandatory course, and a handful of employees zooming in to one of many lectures they can choose to watch on a bunch of subjects. I just don't know yet what this really was.

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« Reply #204 on: July 25, 2021, 11:42:32 PM »
Well, it looks like the makers of the video material are not waiting around to make some remark.
Interestingly, they go after Veritas as to their views, but not the person who made the comments:  it's a weak, weak move which I think we are fully aware of the reason why:  I can almost hear the eggshells being crunched as everyone tiptoes around this blatant fact.

https://www.theconsciouskid.org/news

It's inevitable that Hasbro is going to have to make some sort of meaningful statement as I don't see this going away anytime soon.

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« Reply #205 on: July 26, 2021, 12:57:17 AM »
The dude isn't even a Hasbro employee, he's a temp worker from an outside company. Now, nearly 200k has been raised for him. His story may or may not add up. There is really only his side of things out at this point, and James O'Keefe is not a reliable narrator.

Decades ago, I worked for a company where I was required to take a certain number of hours of paid training per year. But the nature of that training was largely up to me. I took mainly management and technology classes (remote), and a very popular (in-person) class called "White Men, Women, and Minorities: Culture and Power In America." It was actually pretty cool. Despite the name, it was pretty even-handed, and I specifically remember that the instructor wasn't just calling out whites (or men) for having shitty behaviors. It was more about getting people to recognize and challenge their own myopic attitudes.

Well, I'm certainly glad that a "cool" training course about myopic attitudes specified white people in it's title. [/s]

Congratulations on having the reading comprehension of a cup of warm yogurt I guess

Thank you!

I simply found it interesting that even after decades, you remember that they specified white skin color.

Um... yeah...



Ok, so help me out here. I didn't take the course. What does that even mean? Were they describing the people giving the talk? Or the people attending? All I have for context is the negative connotation in current media around white people.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #206 on: July 26, 2021, 01:35:03 AM »
If it was a sham, then Hasbro would have been very quick to point this out.  I haven't seen any evidence as such, other than their lackluster 'it does not reflect our views, as we seem to have no actual meaningful stance to take' nonsense.

It's not like the two choices are "total lie" or "total truth". If he was exaggerating or embellishing parts but there was some truth, then Hasbro might still want to minimize its response to avoid greater publicity.

Jumping in a little late, and I haven't watched the full video - is there any corroboration other than the screen captures shown in the first part of the video?

I'd be curious about corroborating what the course says about toddlers. It sounds here like many are saying that attributing racism in toddlers is insane -- but as Pat mentioned earlier, racial bias in toddlers has been well documented for decades. The bias of toddlers in treating identical white-skinned dolls vs black-skinned dolls (the Clark doll test) was one of the key arguments for desegregation in the 1950s.

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« Reply #207 on: July 26, 2021, 03:18:48 AM »
If it was a sham, then Hasbro would have been very quick to point this out.  I haven't seen any evidence as such, other than their lackluster 'it does not reflect our views, as we seem to have no actual meaningful stance to take' nonsense.

It's not like the two choices are "total lie" or "total truth". If he was exaggerating or embellishing parts but there was some truth, then Hasbro might still want to minimize its response to avoid greater publicity.

Jumping in a little late, and I haven't watched the full video - is there any corroboration other than the screen captures shown in the first part of the video?

I'd be curious about corroborating what the course says about toddlers. It sounds here like many are saying that attributing racism in toddlers is insane -- but as Pat mentioned earlier, racial bias in toddlers has been well documented for decades. The bias of toddlers in treating identical white-skinned dolls vs black-skinned dolls (the Clark doll test) was one of the key arguments for desegregation in the 1950s.

Wow, toddlers tend to prefer people that look like their parents!

Is this true for all toddlers? YES

Does this prove racism? NO

Because racism has a very defined meaning.

Now keep trying to obscure the facts.

Hasbro hired a racist couple to impart racist indoctrination and want to try and include that indoctrination in their products.
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« Reply #208 on: July 26, 2021, 05:26:33 AM »
Lets not forget that people are pretty much keyed to be wary of certain coloues. Black being one simply because the dark and shadows can contain dangers and more than a few aggressive insects have a black element to them.

It all reminds me of the 'study' about humans being aquatic because babies born in the water can swim or somesuch. There was a fairly popular mini-documentary on it way back.

Or the study on children eating healthy foods only. By taking away the choice.

And so on. So I tend to look on these "proofs" with more than a bit of suspicion when its being used as whatever current wave of moral guardians claims to racism. Because odds are approaching 100% that its bunko.

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« Reply #209 on: July 26, 2021, 05:47:37 AM »
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I think it's safe to say no SJW will be the next one in line to split the atom.

First they would cancel splitting all together as it's seen as virtue signaling and then change the name of Atoms to Evems to promote gender equality.