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Author Topic: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!  (Read 19932 times)

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2021, 06:09:46 PM »
[I still remember someone telling me that if WotC started loosing money the bean counters at Hasbro would do something... No we know Hasbro has also been converted so D&D is lost, dead, long live the OSR!
My only argument against this position is that if you limit yourself to the OSR, you're dead in the water. The masses have spoken and the OSR is a tiny minority in terms of play preference, but the majority isn't the Woke mobs either.

The Woke are a minority, which means they need to keep their enemies divided into factions smaller than they are so they can attack those smaller groups one a time.

We need to embrace EVERY type of play that doesn't cave to Marxist wankery; Old School, New School, Home School, Organized Play School. If its opposed to the Woke its part of the team.

The OSR is a great incubation chamber of ideas.

But ultimately if a future woke D&D is to be brought low, a viable alternative needs to come forth.

At some point we are going to have to pick a horse to back.

Well, then someone needs to make a non-woke clone of 5e.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2021, 06:58:23 PM »
Bwhahahaha..... project veritas

I didn't even need to go any further.

Being covered by mainstream press like Newsweek also though.

I looked for Newsweeks article but didn't see it. I did find one from the Daily Mail that said that
1. This training webinar wasn't mandated, but voluntary, and only for small groups.

2. The content was derived from a 3rd Party, which may have views that are not consistent with WotC views.

3. The whistleblower didn't even attend such webinar about the content therin.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2021, 06:59:48 PM »
[I still remember someone telling me that if WotC started loosing money the bean counters at Hasbro would do something... No we know Hasbro has also been converted so D&D is lost, dead, long live the OSR!
My only argument against this position is that if you limit yourself to the OSR, you're dead in the water. The masses have spoken and the OSR is a tiny minority in terms of play preference, but the majority isn't the Woke mobs either.

The Woke are a minority, which means they need to keep their enemies divided into factions smaller than they are so they can attack those smaller groups one a time.

We need to embrace EVERY type of play that doesn't cave to Marxist wankery; Old School, New School, Home School, Organized Play School. If its opposed to the Woke its part of the team.

The OSR is a great incubation chamber of ideas.

But ultimately if a future woke D&D is to be brought low, a viable alternative needs to come forth.

At some point we are going to have to pick a horse to back.

Well, then someone needs to make a non-woke clone of 5e.
Why would you want a clone of a system that's got so much garbage in it? Make an alternative that follows more modern design principles that's actually good.

That's what I'm doing and I am on the last dozen-ish pages of the writing finally... basically the last bits of new GM advice (because I'm not going to presume that players/GMs are coming in via the gateway of the increasingly Woke WotC) are the only parts left to do. Anyone who can do their own world-building and adventure writing could use the rules now (and have been for my many many playtests that involved several almost complete rewrites in the earlier stages of the project).

And part of the effort too is to completely break free and clear of the d20SRD and the OGL. I'll have my own free use system license, but I want it unconnected to anything WotC. Its hard to say you're building a parallel structure when you're still using a lot of the enemy's infrastructure as your foundation. I think having to go back to the original myths and legends and other sources of inspiration (ex. I'll readily admit that Thundarr the Barbarian was a huge influence on my default setting) helps a lot too in terms of making something a little more original in terms of setting.

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2021, 07:16:07 PM »
Bwhahahaha..... project veritas

I didn't even need to go any further.

Being covered by mainstream press like Newsweek also though.

I looked for Newsweeks article but didn't see it. I did find one from the Daily Mail that said that
1. This training webinar wasn't mandated, but voluntary, and only for small groups.

2. The content was derived from a 3rd Party, which may have views that are not consistent with WotC views.

3. The whistleblower didn't even attend such webinar about the content therin.

According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #94 on: July 22, 2021, 07:29:16 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."
« Last Edit: July 22, 2021, 07:39:38 PM by Batman »
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #95 on: July 22, 2021, 08:19:53 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."

Of course it was optional in that you could quit if you dont want to go.

That makes it optional.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2021, 08:31:42 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."

Of course it was optional in that you could quit if you dont want to go.

That makes it optional.

I'm not sure where you got the notion that the only other option was ending of employment?
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2021, 08:49:34 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."

Of course it was optional in that you could quit if you dont want to go.

That makes it optional.

I'm not sure where you got the notion that the only other option was ending of employment?

What happens to staff that dont go to mandatory training?
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2021, 08:52:21 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."

Of course it was optional in that you could quit if you dont want to go.

That makes it optional.

I'm not sure where you got the notion that the only other option was ending of employment?

What happens to staff that dont go to mandatory training?

 Show me the proof it was mandatory
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2021, 08:57:00 PM »
Bwhahahaha..... project veritas

I didn't even need to go any further.

Being covered by mainstream press like Newsweek also though.

I looked for Newsweeks article but didn't see it. I did find one from the Daily Mail that said that
1. This training webinar wasn't mandated, but voluntary, and only for small groups.

2. The content was derived from a 3rd Party, which may have views that are not consistent with WotC views.

3. The whistleblower didn't even attend such webinar about the content therin.

"Mandatory" or not, I would reccomend a high profile company not waflle around about hosting content that may not be consistent with their views. I mean, are they letting random people off the street into the building to do a presentation?
It's Damage Control at this point.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2021, 09:06:48 PM »
According to your "sources" everything the person who was actually there and reported did not happen?

Holy Batman, Batman!

Whistleblower

The training was led by Conscious Kid co-founder Kate Ishizuka-Stephens. Johnson says it was mandatory, but Hasbro maintains it was an 'optional diversity and inclusion webinar attended by a small group of employees.'

Hasbro: "We occasionally invite third-party speakers for optional sessions to discuss diverse viewpoints. As always, the views expressed by external speakers are their own and do not reflect the views of the company.'

"Johnson did not share any concerns with his employer [Hasbro] before going to the Project Veritas, and that it had no part in The Conscious Kid's lectures."

Of course it was optional in that you could quit if you dont want to go.

That makes it optional.

I'm not sure where you got the notion that the only other option was ending of employment?

What happens to staff that dont go to mandatory training?

 Show me the proof it was mandatory

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2021, 09:09:09 PM by Shasarak »
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2021, 09:11:51 PM »
What happens to staff that dont go to mandatory training?

EYE SHOW YOO VOT HAPPENZ!



« Last Edit: July 22, 2021, 09:13:51 PM by palaeomerus »
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2021, 10:46:17 PM »
[I still remember someone telling me that if WotC started loosing money the bean counters at Hasbro would do something... No we know Hasbro has also been converted so D&D is lost, dead, long live the OSR!
My only argument against this position is that if you limit yourself to the OSR, you're dead in the water. The masses have spoken and the OSR is a tiny minority in terms of play preference, but the majority isn't the Woke mobs either.

The Woke are a minority, which means they need to keep their enemies divided into factions smaller than they are so they can attack those smaller groups one a time.

We need to embrace EVERY type of play that doesn't cave to Marxist wankery; Old School, New School, Home School, Organized Play School. If its opposed to the Woke its part of the team.

The OSR is a great incubation chamber of ideas.

But ultimately if a future woke D&D is to be brought low, a viable alternative needs to come forth.

At some point we are going to have to pick a horse to back.

Well, then someone needs to make a non-woke clone of 5e.
Why would you want a clone of a system that's got so much garbage in it? Make an alternative that follows more modern design principles that's actually good.

That's what I'm doing and I am on the last dozen-ish pages of the writing finally... basically the last bits of new GM advice (because I'm not going to presume that players/GMs are coming in via the gateway of the increasingly Woke WotC) are the only parts left to do. Anyone who can do their own world-building and adventure writing could use the rules now (and have been for my many many playtests that involved several almost complete rewrites in the earlier stages of the project).

And part of the effort too is to completely break free and clear of the d20SRD and the OGL. I'll have my own free use system license, but I want it unconnected to anything WotC. Its hard to say you're building a parallel structure when you're still using a lot of the enemy's infrastructure as your foundation. I think having to go back to the original myths and legends and other sources of inspiration (ex. I'll readily admit that Thundarr the Barbarian was a huge influence on my default setting) helps a lot too in terms of making something a little more original in terms of setting.

I don't, but e5 does have many ppl playing it, and if someone were to make such a clone they could not include the parts that suck.

I'm way too busy doing my OSR game (s).
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2021, 10:49:29 PM »
Bwhahahaha..... project veritas

I didn't even need to go any further.

Being covered by mainstream press like Newsweek also though.

I looked for Newsweeks article but didn't see it. I did find one from the Daily Mail that said that
1. This training webinar wasn't mandated, but voluntary, and only for small groups.

2. The content was derived from a 3rd Party, which may have views that are not consistent with WotC views.

3. The whistleblower didn't even attend such webinar about the content therin.

1.- And we all should believe the megacorp, they would never lie to us.

2.- Said 3rd party WAS hired AND paid by Hasbro, I would deduce from this their views do align with it.

3.- Right, and if he didn't then he can't know anything, there's no way he could know anything about it, in fact he doesn't know anything so much Hasbro is in damage control just because.
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Re: Hasbro CRT Whistleblower and WoTC Wokism Exposed!
« Reply #104 on: July 22, 2021, 11:03:48 PM »
Bwhahahaha..... project veritas

I didn't even need to go any further.

Being covered by mainstream press like Newsweek also though.

I looked for Newsweeks article but didn't see it. I did find one from the Daily Mail that said that
1. This training webinar wasn't mandated, but voluntary, and only for small groups.

2. The content was derived from a 3rd Party, which may have views that are not consistent with WotC views.

3. The whistleblower didn't even attend such webinar about the content therin.

1.- And we all should believe the megacorp, they would never lie to us.

2.- Said 3rd party WAS hired AND paid by Hasbro, I would deduce from this their views do align with it.

3.- Right, and if he didn't then he can't know anything, there's no way he could know anything about it, in fact he doesn't know anything so much Hasbro is in damage control just because.

Greetings!

Don't you just love how the Marxist shills jump to do a bunch of tap-dancing to run cover for the cock-sucking, Liberal corporations and their hateful policies? Hasbro would never expect their employees to suck down Marxist jello! It isn't *mandatory* you bigot! ;D

Just imagine you being a Hasbro employee, and telling your boss that you will pass on the Marxist brainwashing seminar? Imagine how well that will go over with your liberal, cock-sucking, Marxist bosses? I imagine they would quickly collate a list of all employees that did not want to attend the Marxist seminar--yes, now you know who is going to be "Downsized". ;D

It's all optional, my friend!

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