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Title: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: bat on October 31, 2020, 12:25:30 PM
Here is his YouTube (https://youtu.be/mb3B8QDPN-Q) rant. He is a long time Savage Worlds poster, most of his videos are on the mechanics. In this video he sanctimoniosly "calls out" Pinnacle for callings Asian people......Asian. For some reason to this individual the word "Asian" is racist. Some people have said if you watch the video he isn't really saying that. Yet he clearly is. It kind of seems like he wants to join the crowd picking on WotC, but he doesn't have the confidence to do that so he came up with this gem. Interesting,  if irrational.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Shawn Driscoll on October 31, 2020, 04:12:06 PM
A soyboy that collects Pop!s. How original.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Musaab on October 31, 2020, 04:21:38 PM
He screams soy.  The video is pathetic and the true reason behind it is him having a personal axe to grind with Pinnacle over licensing issues and having to pay for the license.  So in retaliation, he is trying to sic the SJWs on them.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: bat on October 31, 2020, 05:24:30 PM
I guess my main problem is his manner and ego. He is "schooling" Pinnacle. "Bruja is Mexican for witch, we all know that, but because the skin is darker.....etc". Whoa, Billy. Bruja is SPANISH for witch, actually,  not MEXICAN. Many Spaniards are pale (and some Mexicans still, too), therefore Mexican is just an adjective in this case, not a racial slur. That bit alone makes the skin crawl.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: The Witch-King of Tsámra on October 31, 2020, 06:27:58 PM
Yeah I could not stand more than a few minutes of that bullsjwit. Also yes the spelling is intentional.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Darrin Kelley on October 31, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
I saw this thread this morning and generally thought it was another tempest in a teapot. But this guy being disgruntled with the licensing system Pinnacle uses? Tough cow chips! This guy comes off as a whiney baby who couldn't bully them into getting his way.

In other words: It's a temper tantrum from someone who has an overgrown sense of entitlement.

Nothing to see here. Just move along and let this guy fade away into obscurity.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: TJS on October 31, 2020, 07:46:45 PM
Quote from: bat on October 31, 2020, 05:24:30 PM
I guess my main problem is his manner and ego. He is "schooling" Pinnacle. "Bruja is Mexican for witch, we all know that, but because the skin is darker.....etc". Whoa, Billy. Bruja is SPANISH for witch, actually,  not MEXICAN. Many Spaniards are pale (and some Mexicans still, too), therefore Mexican is just an adjective in this case, not a racial slur. That bit alone makes the skin crawl.
An egotistical self appointed expert with a Youtube channel and no fucking clue what he is talking about?  This must be a first.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: bat on October 31, 2020, 10:47:10 PM
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on October 31, 2020, 07:31:48 PM
I saw this thread this morning and generally thought it was another tempest in a teapot. But this guy being disgruntled with the licensing system Pinnacle uses? Tough cow chips! This guy comes off as a whiney baby who couldn't bully them into getting his way.

In other words: It's a temper tantrum from someone who has an overgrown sense of entitlement.

Nothing to see here. Just move along and let this guy fade away into obscurity.

I heartily agree. And this is what really irks me. There is blatant racism, sexism, etc. out there, we all know it. Call it out, that is playing fair. This guy alleges racism because it is all he has because he didn't get his way over licensing.  So he goes full manchild. I also hope he drops off the radar.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Hawkwing7423 on October 31, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
What a tool.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Darrin Kelley on November 01, 2020, 12:11:03 AM
Quote from: bat on October 31, 2020, 10:47:10 PM
I heartily agree. And this is what really irks me. There is blatant racism, sexism, etc. out there, we all know it. Call it out, that is playing fair. This guy alleges racism because it is all he has because he didn't get his way over licensing.  So he goes full manchild. I also hope he drops off the radar.

As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread mentioned. Mexican isn't a race. It's a nationality. This guy couldn't even get something so basic right. So who knows what quality the product he was trying to produce would end up being like? And more than likely? It wouldn't have passed Pinnacle's quality control measures they have in place for licensed books.

Stick a fork in him! He's done!
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Almost_Useless on November 01, 2020, 07:53:07 PM
Oh, and there's all this stuff going on behind the scenes.  I won't tell you about that or show any proof, but I thought it was wrong.  So did all these people who work for me that you've never seen or heard from.

If I use 'problematic', 'toxic', and 'community' often enough, you'll just know they're all the Wrong Kind of People (tm).

And this evil, totally optional, license.  With easy rules to follow to get a little bit of free publicity at no cost.  That's terrible.  Not to mention that if you make money from their stuff, they want to be PAID for it!

FYI, turning the comments off because I can't possibly be wrong.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Shasarak on November 01, 2020, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Darrin Kelley on November 01, 2020, 12:11:03 AM
Quote from: bat on October 31, 2020, 10:47:10 PM
I heartily agree. And this is what really irks me. There is blatant racism, sexism, etc. out there, we all know it. Call it out, that is playing fair. This guy alleges racism because it is all he has because he didn't get his way over licensing.  So he goes full manchild. I also hope he drops off the radar.

As someone else mentioned earlier in the thread mentioned. Mexican isn't a race. It's a nationality. This guy couldn't even get something so basic right. So who knows what quality the product he was trying to produce would end up being like? And more than likely? It wouldn't have passed Pinnacle's quality control measures they have in place for licensed books.

Stick a fork in him! He's done!

A lot of people think that European is a race so it is no surprise about Mexicans.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Ghostmaker on November 02, 2020, 08:58:56 AM
I can't wait for @Geeky_Bugle to find this thread :D
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Anon Adderlan on November 02, 2020, 09:54:21 AM
Back when Shane announced the removal of the CSA on Facebook the only person to object was also the only black dude participating in the discussion, and they were dismissed with a 'thank you for your feedback'. So they're not exactly wrong regarding Pinnacle's stance on race. However it looks like they're just using this as a way to have at Pinnacle for other reasons, and to the surprise of no one they've disabled the comments.

Quote from: bat on October 31, 2020, 12:25:30 PMIn this video he sanctimoniosly "calls out" Pinnacle for callings Asian people......Asian.

Oh man nobody show them The Asians Represent Podcast.

Quote from: bat on October 31, 2020, 05:24:30 PM"Bruja is Mexican for witch, we all know that, but because the skin is darker.....etc". Whoa, Billy. Bruja is SPANISH for witch, actually,  not MEXICAN.

I bet they're not Spanish Mexican either.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: hedgehobbit on November 02, 2020, 10:13:25 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on November 01, 2020, 08:52:50 PMA lot of people think that European is a race so it is no surprise about Mexicans.
Viva la Raza!
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: tenbones on November 02, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
I polled all my fellow Asians as to how offended they were at "Asian Witch"...

No one seemed to give a shit.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Alderaan Crumbs on November 02, 2020, 12:10:07 PM
Quote from: tenbones on November 02, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
I polled all my fellow Asians as to how offended they were at "Asian Witch"...

No one seemed to give a shit.

I'm white so I think I'm supposed to be offended on your behalf...;)

And oh boy, I am not enough degrees away from the guy, socially. I know people who know him well. What I find reprehensible about it is A) him shutting off comments and (even more so) B) the social hostage taking his kind employ.

I really hope these people evaporate sooner than later.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: Abraxus on November 02, 2020, 01:16:27 PM
If anything good came out of this it's the guy in the video has pretty much advertised he should never be hired by any reputable rpg company. At the very least any that don't simply hire because the person spouts the proper woke SJW nonsense. Why would I ever hire the manchild for trying to ruin an rpg company because the poor baby did not get his way.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: rytrasmi on November 02, 2020, 01:23:01 PM
At 7:05 he says Pinnacle says "We have a black friend and they don't mind." Isn't that exactly like, you know, a sensitivity reader? Or is it only a sensitivity reader when it requires some kind of contrition and then a revision? The hypocrisy is mind blowing.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: tenbones on November 02, 2020, 04:14:48 PM
Well you know how it is with SJW's and their fucked outrage-detectors. Once they assume something is awry - there is *no* purity test that can ever be passed.

No amount of kneeling (or he might be offended if I don't bow with gong and kowtow?) will suffice. No apologies accepted or asked for. No assumption that they might be wrong, or there is miscommunication. And it always comes down to their self-entitled childish worldview that they're owed something...

Like for instance this tirade about how Pinnacle is screwed up because he doesn't like any of their deals they offer in terms of partnership. THEN DON'T TAKE IT.

Like he's owed some kind of career using someone elses IP or work.

And the whole "autism" outrage? Using his own daughter as an excuse to see their statement in the worst possible light imaginable, which is standard insanity for SJW morons, should only underscore his own position that he's ignoring the spectrum that "autism" covers in terms of behaviorial interaction. Fuck man there are non-autistic people that I think shouldn't be playing RPG's, much less autistic people that can't quite get the interpersonal stuff down and without the right group can get unintentionally awkward. But no - he couldn't possibly give Pinnacle a mote of credit on that.

What a fucking toolbag.
Title: Re: Guy who posts about Pinnacle now "calls Pinnacle out" for "racism".
Post by: consolcwby on November 03, 2020, 12:30:18 AM
I took some minutes of the rant, so people don't have to watch it all:

This video has been in the works for last 6 months
"ok boomer racism"
Asian and Mexican Witches are called Asian and Mexican Because brown skin color
SW Community Savage World Hangout are nothing but trolls
deadlands lists black people as "the blacks"
spotlight on product from Atomic Ninja Studios
     Same group as SW Community Web Site GIve them money? NONONONONONO!
Pinnacle: Autistic kids are stupid because they can't play the game? Me: wut?
Still loves SW ruleset
Turned off comments because of expected backlash
DO NOT take my words as broadstrokes and use them against me
Surface level stuff - now bad licensing on digital distribution - all about them - authoritarians
still doing SW videos now and then - but won't support them
"I'm the holdout on all this."
Has autistic daughter
Tastes have shifted SW is now my #3 system.
Pinnacle always gets their cut - cannot be comfortable - find ways to do videos on their products
     without paying them, somehow...
This has been my business for YEARS.
Bye.

His OSR Playlist: (Aka: Only Basic Fantasy stuff)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnSyNk-RBs4zazNTCCpQebKGgttWcWDLX

My take is: This is a guy whose partnership ended PROBABLY due to him not wanting to push certain product on his channel, and his complaints about lack of sensitivity on "autistic people" were probably along the lines of Pinnacle saying "Commenters make you butthurt? So what."  This coupled with him S T R E T C H I N G for a reason (RACISM) to get Pinnacle canceled REEKS of a guy who is attempting to use SJWs as his personal army. IMHO he will be the one to be canceled. Eventually.