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Got a case of the Galactic Cockrot?

Started by Mark Plemmons, August 28, 2015, 09:17:11 AM

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Koltar

It looks like crap disguised as an RPG.

The description reads like the author never matured in many ways.

Want space adventure in the far future with some occasional mature themes?

There was this game called TRAVELLER.....



- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

Ratman_tf

In any case, I'm now going to have to find a way to work "galactic cockrot" into casual conversation.
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crkrueger

#32
Quote from: Arminius;851732CRKrueger, correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't that a bit of a thread hijack?

Was browsing this morning saw the thread, was like WTF, went to check it out, saw it was Skorched Urf, thought "Where do I know that company from, look them up, oh yeah that Hentai thing, see the latest release...OH NO YOU DIDN'T!"  So kind of a stream of consciousness thing.  Same publisher, same author, same idea of exaggerating tropes, granted the tropes are just a wee bit different. :D

The blurbs for some of the Galaxy Command items are just wacky.
Quote from: Adorable AvengerPlanet Pacifica.  Rainbow ringed jewel of Galaxy Command, a world with a heritage of peace and freedom dating back nearly 1800 years. One of the first and greatest of the human colony worlds, the men and women who tamed Pacifica have built a world that is the envy of their galactic neighbors, a world that is a utopia even by the high standards of 35th Century existence.

The citizens of Pacifica eliminated crime, war and disease centuries ago. The multispectrum radiation from the planet's spectacular ring system energies human cells, reversing age and giving the body the energy it needs to fight off even the worst disease. On their homeworld, Pacificians are virtually immortal- centuries old philosopher/hedonists with the bodies of teenagers. Pacifica's ruling council allows grievously wounded from across the galaxy to rest and recover on the paradise. However, though Galaxy Command and its agents are welcome on the pleasure-world, their weapons (even the non lethal wonders Command marshals use tofight off WARSTAR hordes) are not. Nothing capable of inflicting harm is allowed on Pacifica, and clouds of intelligent mist, possibly the most amazing micro-bots in the galaxy, roam the world seeking out and nullifying any weapons smuggled on-planet.

Pacifica enjoys a reputation as the most lavish resort world in known space, but is also renowned for its serene, meditative temples. Diplomats, brilliant artists and famous courtesans all hail from this lush world, and so do the quirky, courageous and relentlessly cheerful adventurers nicknamed, only half-jokingly, "Adorable Avengers". Cute, lovable and resolute, these (in)famous women end wars, broker lasting peace-treaties between mortal enemies. Sworn to do no harm to any life form, Adorable Avengers are unconventional heroes, who solve problems with wit, with affection and with charm, not with blasters. Even the latest WARSTAR atrocity can't break their resolve, nor end their quest for justice.

Quote from: Monsters of Rock!This short and f#$@in’ sweet bestiary is about every f$%#@r the Command hates: rock and rollers, Free Spacers, Cosmic Satanists, Pacificians, disciples of Elvis Presley, and the gay dudes living and cruising out in Starburn Sector.

Stay alive as long as you can, guys, because every day you slide out of your bunk and pull on your boots, you’re pissing off the bastards that run the galaxy.

“The most dangerous place in the galaxy for a young human is a rock and roll concert. The Good Datafile teaches that rock and roll is the hymn of hell and we all know that the only sinners Jesus II hates more than furries are musicians. Be not tempted by Satan’s lyrics, nor by the flesh and chrome and display in these concert stages young humans! Satan’s music is a trap. Listen to rock and roll too long, and its infernal lyrics will be the last things you hear, as a Cosmic Satanist carves out your internal organs in sacrifice to Satan Maximus!”
- Mega-Sister Lynnette Morgasa Van Tauten, preaching at a rock & roll data-crystal burning in the Manchuria District of Earth

“Sorry to interrupt the music, rockers, but we just got word the Command Navy’s moving into assault position above Rest and Be Thankful. Anybody with an armed and space-worthy ship, we can use you to push ‘em back. Even if you’re unarmed, we can use your help evac’n the natives. We’ll protect you as best we can. If you want to help, get in touch with the station and we’ll start assembling our counterfleet. Now, back to the rock….”
- Prudence Pussycat Korso, Outlaw Sex Station 09 DJ

Then there's The Otherverse, a near-future dystopia based on an American Civil War around the Abortion debate.

Quote from: Closed: The Monsters of the Army of GodThe Lifer Army of God fought Fed-Gov and Choicer forces to a standstill for thirty agonizing years before the Army’s dreams died in the Boston snow.

For the last sixteen years, the Lifers have rebuilt the Army of God in secret, operating out of hidden bases across North America. The reborn Army of God is better trained, better equipped and deadlier than its predecessor, and it will- it must!- succeed where its predecessor failed. The reborn Army of God only lacks one critical component: its immortal, alien general Artemis, who died at Boston. For sixteen years, Lifer veterans have whispered that one day their alien messiah would return in glory. The Lifers cached guns, they trained, they tested the Choicer Covenant’s strength and resolve with hit and run skirmishes and acts of terrorism, and they’ve prayed, every day for Artemis to return to them.

Their prayers have finally been answered.

It is January 22, 2107. Artemis returns this very night, and America burns…

I didn't even look at the supplement line titled Fursona...

So I mean, um, when it comes to pushing buttons and making fun of all things sacred, these guys kind of make Desborough look rather mainstream, right? Which is where the rest of the post came from.  I mean Evil Hat obviously has no problem with their products on a site right next to these...

BTW granted Black Tokyo didn't need to be written, but it's not like he really invented anything there, it's all straight out of Japan.  Zack Parsons of "WTF D&D" fame, covered these real hentai computer games for Something Awful over a decade ago.  Battle Raper had an original, 2D "Street Fighter like" version, and a 3D "Tekken like" version.
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arminius

Point is, the Inquisition didn't appear in the thread until you brought it.

Thanks for those quotes, though. I enjoyed them, even though I think the concepts are wasted on a d20 supplement and the art in the preview is pretty bad. Should team up with somebody who can draw in an underground comics style like S. Clay Wilson.

Simlasa

Quote from: Arminius;851871Should team up with somebody who can draw in an underground comics style like S. Clay Wilson.
A Checkered Demon game seems like it might be right in line for them.

Ravenswing

#35
Quote from: Simlasa;851857I'm not one of those who frets over the 'future of the hobby' or attracting new blood. I mean, it's nice when it happens but it's not some sacred trust ... The non-players I've met who've expressed opinions don't avoid RPGs because they're violent or obscene... they avoid them because to them they sound silly and childish and dull.
My take as well.  Even within the hobby, the degree to which people know or give a damn about Those Games That Are Beyond The Pale are damned limited.  I'd bet that if your average gamer (and by "average," I mean "doesn't live and breathe on Internet RPG forums") ever even heard of a F.A.T.A.L. or a Book of Erotic Fantasy, it's not beyond a "Isn't it that thing that someone was ranting about that time?  What was it, anyway?"

(Because, after all, the ratio of Internet RPG forum regulars convinced that F.A.T.A.L. -- for instance -- is one step further to damnation than the Satanic Bible to those who've actually read the damn thing is about 100:1.  Mostly it comes down to "Yeah, there was a thread on RPGnet, it's about baby rape and anal circumference and it's evil, yeah!")

Outside the hobby?  Oh come on.  Those works aren't found on store shelves.  They're not even on FLGS shelves, and given the hostility to all matters sexual that permeates tabletop, they seldom ever have been.  And in the media blizzard of "OMG what did Miley Cyrus/Kylie Jenner wear last night?!?", the latest Tarantino flick, or the newest Grand Theft Auto release, who the hell in the wider world would notice if they were?

Beyond that, a hobby that uniformly glorifies violence, murder and theft -- where "Kill them and take their stuff" has gone past a gleeful rallying cry into a cliche -- doesn't have much credibility when it comes to denouncing products.  While what we consider in good taste or not is of course up to our personal squick factors, I doubt too many of the neighbors of anyone participating in this thread would be comforted at the thought that the fantasies we play out in our living rooms are of casual killers and burglars, instead of rapists or promiscuous folks.

And in that light, sorry: we don't have the right to point fingers and say "Well, what WE do is okay, but THAT is Going Too Far!"  All we get to do -- and not be hypocrites -- is say "I'm just not into that, and it squicks me out.  You want to play that, fine, knock yourself out, but leave me out of it."
This was a cool site, until it became an echo chamber for whiners screeching about how the "Evul SJWs are TAKING OVAH!!!" every time any RPG book included a non-"traditional" NPC or concept, or their MAGA peeners got in a twist. You're in luck, drama queens: the Taliban is hiring.

James Gillen

Quote from: Chris A Field;851763Tournament of Rapists, which is for my Black Tokyo Campaign Setting is a lot nastier. Intentionally so. This is a really, really adults only setting that deals with some nasty, unpleasant elements and has since the first book came out. Rape, misogyny, and the worst kinds slavery exist in the setting- mostly as evils for the players to fight.

Oh, YOU'RE the guy who did Black Tokyo.  It's pretty good for what it is, but could you PLEASE do a new edition with art that doesn't look like a 5-year old's Jackson Pollock imitation?

JG
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Opaopajr

Those Galaxy Command quotes make me want to... jizz in my pants. (insert Lonely Island video here) :cool: How did I not know of this product until now? It's like they tapped into a fresh source of junior high id and let it deluge forth. Faboo!

I am now scribbling the outline to run a XXX Zoomanity traveling circus of Pacificians spreading peace, love, and water-based lubricant. If I play my cards right I can incorporate double entry bookkeeping in the struggle to keep the circus economically afloat while on tour! OMG, sex shows 'n accounting the RPG campaign! Totes adorbs!
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James Gillen

Quote from: Ratman_tf;851864In any case, I'm now going to have to find a way to work "galactic cockrot" into casual conversation.

I'm really surprised that Dave Wyndorf didn't think of it first.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Nexus

Odd thing... The only RL Black Tokyo games I've ever personally heard of had all female players. One was a one on one with a male GM and a female player. The other group was entirely female.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

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Nexus

Quote from: James Gillen;851944I'm really surprised that Dave Wyndorf didn't think of it first.

JG

Black Tpkyo would have made a great rule set for the old (and I believe long gone) Rapture Academy hentai anime setting.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Chris A Field

Quote from: trechriron;8517711. Welcome to theRPGsite!

2. You are a brave soul...  :-D

What niche do you feel you are representing?

Was any of this material inspired by real-life media (movies, anime, manga, porn, etc.)?

As I mentioned Heavy Future is mostly 80s sci, fi. Black Tokyo as a whole is inspired by anime, mostly hentai but the occasional non-adult anime in joke or homage finds its way in. I'm inspired a lot by Green Ronin's Freedom City campaign world, which references and parodies pretty much every comic ever published in the superhero genre, but still manages to be a complete and cohesive world in its own right. Tournament of Rapists specifically inspired by fighting games like Mortal Kombat and Tekken with a very dark spin, but also real world fetish porn, like an older video called "Karate Girls vs Rape Team" and similar pornographic 'blood sports'.

As for my niche, I just write the kinds of games I want to play. Weird politics, pagan theology, sex, violence, other stuff that a lot of game companies don't want to touch for fear of the same bad press I've gotten over this (and other works, especially over at RPG.net. I say this with some pride: they HATE my ass over there.)

CHRIS

Chris A Field

Quote from: James Gillen;851888Oh, YOU'RE the guy who did Black Tokyo.  It's pretty good for what it is, but could you PLEASE do a new edition with art that doesn't look like a 5-year old's Jackson Pollock imitation?

JG

http://www.rpgnow.com/product/115952/Black-Tokyo-Unlimited-Edition

Done.
The original edition, with my crappy art (and based on D20 Modern) is free. But this revised edition (powered by the PFRPG), which I guarantee has precisely 0% of my crappy art is available for purchase.

Nexus

Quote from: Chris A Field;852049As I mentioned Heavy Future is mostly 80s sci, fi. Black Tokyo as a whole is inspired by anime, mostly hentai but the occasional non-adult anime in joke or homage finds its way in. I'm inspired a lot by Green Ronin's Freedom City campaign world, which references and parodies pretty much every comic ever published in the superhero genre, but still manages to be a complete and cohesive world in its own right. Tournament of Rapists specifically inspired by fighting games like Mortal Kombat and Tekken with a very dark spin, but also real world fetish porn, like an older video called "Karate Girls vs Rape Team" and similar pornographic 'blood sports'.

As for my niche, I just write the kinds of games I want to play. Weird politics, pagan theology, sex, violence, other stuff that a lot of game companies don't want to touch for fear of the same bad press I've gotten over this (and other works, especially over at RPG.net. I say this with some pride: they HATE my ass over there.)

CHRIS

Hate you? I bet they stick pins in little voodoo dolls shaped like you. :D

And welcome.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Chris A Field

Quote from: Nexus;851963Odd thing... The only RL Black Tokyo games I've ever personally heard of had all female players. One was a one on one with a male GM and a female player. The other group was entirely female.

I've had this same experience with folks who've commented on my blog or emailed me with questions about the game. Black Tokyo has a pretty strong female following, as does Otherverse America. I'm happy about that, and I'm just glad some people are enjoying the bizarre content I publish.

I've got a few theories about why that is, in Black Tokyo's case.

I think part of the appeal of Black Tokyo is that is is a safe space for extreme fantasies- rape, slavery, snuff sex, all the darkest impulses. I lurk quite a few BSDM and extreme fetish boards, and there's a lot of women with submissive fantasies or rape fantasies out there- obviously not something they'd ever want in real life, but in a bondage session, or sitting around a gaming table for a few hours, 'sign me up, please!'

Black Tokyo is a campaign world based entirely around those fantasies. Its also a chance for women to kick ass and take names in a way few other campaign worlds offer. There's a lot of in-universe factions, powers and even races that are girls-only, and there's a lot of feminist themes of struggle against misogyny and rape culture woven directly into the world.

So two different impulses: submissive fantasies, and kicking ass and looking good doing it that might attract women to the setting. Also, anime and manga in general has a HUGE female audience, and I don't want to discount the role Amanda Webb and her artwork has had in attacting women to the world. She's a kick ass artist and has been a part of designing the setting since the beginning.

CHRIS