I concur with the consensus that if someone makes another B/X clone, they'll have to do something radically new. Just sticking a few rules from AD&D isn't going to cut it.

Quote from: S'mon on December 18, 2021, 05:08:26 AMEdit: Not been particularly impressed by what I've seen of Gillespie personally, and I once saw a review of Barrowmaze by a student of his who said they had to have proof of purchasing the module to pass his teaching course! 

Yeah. Greg pissed me off over some silly thing years ago after I had backed both of his Barromaze kickstarters and used it as the main dungeon of my B/X campaign.

I don't really think there's room for any clone. Any one that sells now is mainly because of art/look, because THE RULES ARE ALL THE SAME in a clone.

I can't understand what kind of idiot would own the B/X or RC stuff, and then also get Labyrinth Lord, and OSE, and S&W, and then think "Man I sure need another identical fucking game as those from the guy who made barrowmaze"!

Meanwhile, the OSR is full of games that actually do AWESOME NEW THINGS with the D&D basic rules. Buy those.

Well, actually OSE Advanced is different, as it B/Xifies the advanced classes, in some cases pretty significantly.  In that sense, in addition to the obvious changes in layout & presentation, it represents an advancement over Labyrinth Lord. 

B/X Essentials, which morphed into OSE, not so much.  In that case, it's likely a matter of aesthetics and personal preferences.  For me personally, I like everything in as few volumes as possible (preferably one) and I like the smaller sized books.  Certain rule tweaks, like the single saving throw of S&W and some other games are nice too.

That being said, I do think we've hit the saturation point as I noted above because you can basically take any of the aforementioned games and easily house rule it your tastes.