Quote from: SHARK on May 16, 2024, 11:01:03 AMGreetings!

I read the entire article. I find it interesting how this clown sounds *exactly* like all the other Woke morons, wallowing in being eternal victims, while at the same time exalting themselves, their personal experience, their family, and their heritage over everyone else, most importantly normal White people.

Keep crying, bitch. You got fucking conquered. You, and your entire people got conquered because you were fucking weak.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

There is nothing more pathetic than a member of the losing side who, rather than fantasizing about bloody revenge (which I can at least understand), instead whines and moans that those who defeated him are not as weak, servile, and toothless as he.  This not only why they lose, it is why they deserve to lose.

Oh, and I bet I've got more Cherokee in my heritage than he does.  Of course, I don't romanticize and fetishize the stone-age culture of my ancestors, so it probably doesn't count...

Quote from: Brad on May 16, 2024, 09:22:54 AMI'm not reading any of that.

This is the correct take, and Brad continues to have the the most based post per byte.

Quote from: Eirikrautha on May 16, 2024, 08:21:33 PM

Quote from: SHARK on May 16, 2024, 11:01:03 AMGreetings!

I read the entire article. I find it interesting how this clown sounds *exactly* like all the other Woke morons, wallowing in being eternal victims, while at the same time exalting themselves, their personal experience, their family, and their heritage over everyone else, most importantly normal White people.

Keep crying, bitch. You got fucking conquered. You, and your entire people got conquered because you were fucking weak.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

There is nothing more pathetic than a member of the losing side who, rather than fantasizing about bloody revenge (which I can at least understand), instead whines and moans that those who defeated him are not as weak, servile, and toothless as he.  This not only why they lose, it is why they deserve to lose.

Oh, and I bet I've got more Cherokee in my heritage than he does.  Of course, I don't romanticize and fetishize the stone-age culture of my ancestors, so it probably doesn't count...

Greetings!

Cherokee, huh? Interesting! I am part Cherokee as well! A very interesting and proud tribe of people. The Indians as a whole though were absolutely primitive, and also fractured and disunited. Excellent point too, about not romanticizing and fetishizing the stone-age culture of your ancestors.

You know, it is interesting how even *back then*--there were debates within the tribes--like the Cherokee--between trying to keep the whole traditional culture, or embracing the new culture of the White Man, and Christianity. This debate raged with passion back and forth, and inspired endless drama, hatreds, and long-standing feuds. In the end though, change is inevitable, new ways must be embraced.

Oh, and this clown author of the article? Evidently he is also queer, of course, and lives in British Columbia, where he is a college professor. Teaches Critical Indigenous Studies, English, blah, blah, blah. Pretty standard profile for the long line of Woke Demagogues. They all use the same arguments, the same criticisms, of D&D. And, overall, their entire personal anecdotal profiles of themselves are also always strikingly the same--they are all typically women, minorities, or gay or queer men. Always full of so much personal trauma and childhood isolation of never fitting in. Always living their lives confused, and angst-filled, often featuring them rebelling against their family, society, and everything. Even their related high school experiences--they are all the same. They were always the ugly, fat gay guy or fat lesbian girl, or some ugly thin version, but always the misfit and the social reject.

These people are full of hatred, envy, jealousy, and bitterness. Like this clown. He is in his 50's, and he is still cherishing his early high school years of being a social misfit.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Insane Nerd Ramblings on May 16, 2024, 01:30:39 AM

QuoteAnd soon the Tolkienesque template of D&D began to chafe, as did the varied inheritors of Tolkien's literary imaginings. (The other great influence on D&D's world-building, Robert E. Howard, especially his Conan works, held no appeal for me whatsoever, as there was no beauty, no grace, no romance—just blood, brutality, butchery, and overt racism.) As much as I loved Middle-earth, it was still a world where lordship was borne in the blood, where inheriting country gentry were served faithfully by loving and dutiful servants, of the uncertain triumph of "Western civilization" over the dark and fallen peoples who stood against it. And while Tolkien's orcs and their filmic, gaming, and media iterations have been shaped by and expanded on savagist anti-Black and anti-Asian stereotypes, they're also informed by stereotypical ideas about Indigenous primitivism (as are his Drúedain, the reclusive Woses who aid the Rohirrim on their way to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields).

I'm convinced this stupid motherfucker has never read The Lord of the Rings, let alone any other part of Tolkien's legendarium to spout such dishonest pseudo-inllectual bullshit. Never mind the fact he sounds like someone that probably bullied real D&D players in high school and only 'saw the light' when he figured out he could grift.

I'm pretty sure he's never read any Howard either. No beauty? Good luck finding an ugly woman in Howard's works. They're there, but few and far between. No grace? In Conan's first story, he's saved at the will of a god to save the world from evil. No romance? Conan often gave up his dreams to save a woman. And these claims of "overt racism" never seem to have any evidence. I think the thing that they despise there is the chapter in The Hour of the Dragon, where Conan frees a boat-load of black slaves, and leads them to slaughter their white masters. North American leftists will never get over how much that feels like what the Republicans did to the Democrats in the American Civil War.

I'm not going to read that.  I have already read it anyway.  Without reading it, I know exactly what it says and what terminology the writer uses.  I know because these things are all the same.  They make the same stupid claims.  They all make the same misrepresentations.  They phrase them the same way.  The writers all have the same anecdotes.  I don't need to read it to know that it's a reiteration of the same bullshit talking points we have seen these people using for decades.  It was worthless stupidity all of the other times and it's worthless stupidity this time too.   

Quote from: Brad on May 16, 2024, 01:10:50 PM

Quote from: Omega on May 16, 2024, 11:58:54 AMWhat "logic"?

There is no justification except on the minds of raving lunatics.

Considering there are actual blacks mentioned peripherally in Tolkien's lore, it makes the whole "orcs are black" argument even dumber than it sounds on its face.

Not only that, Tolkien described orcs as follows: "...they are (or were) squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types."
There's not the least hint that orcs are stand-ins for black people. If anyone could be offended by orcs, it would be Mongolians, but I doubt anyone has ever asked them.

Quote from: David Johansen on May 16, 2024, 07:55:52 PMI think part of the problem is that many of these writers and commentators are ashamed that they like and play D&D and have to tear it down to show they are really grown up adults with adult attitudes and understanding.

What is funny is that there are plenty of notable conservatives like Michelle Malkin who are not in the least embarrassed by enjoying Dungeons & Dragons.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1772229319511213

Quote from: jeff37923 on Today at 04:28:25 AM

Quote from: David Johansen on May 16, 2024, 07:55:52 PMI think part of the problem is that many of these writers and commentators are ashamed that they like and play D&D and have to tear it down to show they are really grown up adults with adult attitudes and understanding.

What is funny is that there are plenty of notable conservatives like Michelle Malkin who are not in the least embarrassed by enjoying Dungeons & Dragons.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1772229319511213

Greetings!

Oh yeah, Jeff! Michelle Malkin is such a joy! The girl is definitely OLD SCHOOL. I remember seeing her hold up her original 1E AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide! She has been playing for a very long time, just like most of us. It's funny, too, as she has been married forever, and I imagine she has been playing D&D with her husband and her friends for many years, too. I remember seeing her video where she talked about how she loves D&D, and plays every week!

Can you imagine being in a campaign with Michelle Malkin as the DM? *Laughing* She is so sharp and fun, such a campaign would be very awesome, too!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Krazz on May 18, 2024, 03:50:03 PM

Quote from: Insane Nerd Ramblings on May 16, 2024, 01:30:39 AM

QuoteAnd soon the Tolkienesque template of D&D began to chafe, as did the varied inheritors of Tolkien's literary imaginings. (The other great influence on D&D's world-building, Robert E. Howard, especially his Conan works, held no appeal for me whatsoever, as there was no beauty, no grace, no romance—just blood, brutality, butchery, and overt racism.) As much as I loved Middle-earth, it was still a world where lordship was borne in the blood, where inheriting country gentry were served faithfully by loving and dutiful servants, of the uncertain triumph of "Western civilization" over the dark and fallen peoples who stood against it. And while Tolkien's orcs and their filmic, gaming, and media iterations have been shaped by and expanded on savagist anti-Black and anti-Asian stereotypes, they're also informed by stereotypical ideas about Indigenous primitivism (as are his Drúedain, the reclusive Woses who aid the Rohirrim on their way to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields).

I'm convinced this stupid motherfucker has never read The Lord of the Rings, let alone any other part of Tolkien's legendarium to spout such dishonest pseudo-inllectual bullshit. Never mind the fact he sounds like someone that probably bullied real D&D players in high school and only 'saw the light' when he figured out he could grift.

I'm pretty sure he's never read any Howard either. No beauty? Good luck finding an ugly woman in Howard's works. They're there, but few and far between. No grace? In Conan's first story, he's saved at the will of a god to save the world from evil. No romance? Conan often gave up his dreams to save a woman. And these claims of "overt racism" never seem to have any evidence. I think the thing that they despise there is the chapter in The Hour of the Dragon, where Conan frees a boat-load of black slaves, and leads them to slaughter their white masters. North American leftists will never get over how much that feels like what the Republicans did to the Democrats in the American Civil War.

What the guy is parroting there is the common stereotype of Conan among people who've never read Howard. It's a stereotype that arises from people parodying the many 80s knockoffs of the film and comic book adaptations of Conan, so it's about 5 steps removed from the original.