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New Super Hero game based on FASERIP, “Heroic” on Backerkit

Started by weirdguy564, March 03, 2024, 02:53:36 AM

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tenbones

Re: Aquaman...

When did Aquaman change? 1994. His mini-series which redefined him by putting the guy through the wringer - he got his hand eaten off arm by piranha (they ignored his mental commands because they're dicks. Seriously). He'd already gotten his son murdered by Black Manta... like I said, the dude was put on the road of Marvel-levels of pathos. He got more ruthless. Ironically, he edged a lot closer to Namor. The writers definitely got more creative with him.

Harpoon/No-Harpoon - does add something to Aquaman, but lets be real, Namor has willingly gone up against Thor with Mjolnir. Aquaman on his best days isn't even in the ballpark of the same city, in the same state of the games in which the league that Thor is the MVP whose team bus stops to take a shit in on their way to the real stadium where his games take place.

But I do think it matters. Just not enough.


Brad

Quote from: tenbones on April 01, 2024, 12:55:32 PMLet me throw some out there:

Deathstroke vs. Captain America
man I could do this all day...

Cap never loses. Source: I am a major Cap fanboy.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Cipher

Quote from: Brad on April 23, 2024, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: tenbones on April 01, 2024, 12:55:32 PMLet me throw some out there:

Deathstroke vs. Captain America
man I could do this all day...

Cap never loses. Source: I am a major Cap fanboy.

I confirm the source is valid and irrefutable.


tenbones

Quote from: Brad on April 23, 2024, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: tenbones on April 01, 2024, 12:55:32 PMLet me throw some out there:

Deathstroke vs. Captain America
man I could do this all day...

Cap never loses. Source: I am a major Cap fanboy.

I'm a massive classic Deathstroke fan. And I would never dispute any of this, as I'm also a Cap fanboy.

APN

I'm sure we all know Character X vs Y is all about popularity (probably with one notable exception: Spider-man. He gets his arse kicked every issue sometimes in the most unlikely manner. He's very much like Kick Ass in that his super power is to take a beating). With that in mind Deathstroke (a 'B' Tier character in DC - popular but not Batman, Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman etc levels, where each has had TV series/Films/merchandise forever. That said he's been a bad guy in a TV show and in cartoons so is better known than many others) is, in Game terms, stronger, faster and tougher than even the peak physical attribute human. A 'super soldier' for sure.

The MCU saw Cap get an upgrade in abilities and popularity. It's a win for CA over Deathstroke despite the latter being in the IN/40 Strength range, though it'd be dragged out over a few pages. I'd put Deathstroke as:

F IN40
A IN40
S IN40
E IN40
R GD10
I EX20
P EX20

In the old Marvel terms. I'd put Cap as the same (physically) aside from S RM30 and F AM50. He has more Karma than Deathstroke and also the Shield so Deathstroke struggles to land a blow but skills are probably very similar. Actually in game terms if Deathstroke can get the Shield away then it might come down to a coin flip.

In MEGs terms they'd be pretty much on the same columns for most things though Cap would have the 'Force Shield' power which makes him nigh invulnerable unless you can blindside him or take it away (Limitation: Requires Shield to use). The Block maneuver doesn't apply unless he 'braces' to stop something really big/bad coming at him. At least how I see it anyway, your mileage may vary. Deathstroke can 'Trick shot' to bounce a thrown or fired weapon from a surface to attack from Blindside/Flank and bypass the shield, but that makes it harder and Cap ain't exactly easy to hit.

Cap would have more Hero Points so takes a win there too, but neither fight (MSH/MEGs) is completely foregone. Rolls and tactics may mess things up.

I still think this guy would prevail.



Aside from the popularity thing he's the consummate planner. Plan for everyone, aside from Wonder Woman who he admitted he could find no weaknesses for. Same character as Cap. In his own book battles mooks and struggles against super villains sometimes. In the group books both punch far, far above their weight against Darkseid and Thanos, for example.