Quote from: El-V on May 15, 2024, 06:27:06 AMWhere's Sheila? Has the woke gingercide got her as well?

Possibly.  Though I suppose she might be in the picture but has her hood up as well. 

edit:  Oops!  I should have scrolled down first before responding.  The joke has already been made! 

If it keeps them away from Dark Sun, Mystara, and Birthright they can go ahead and devour the hell out of this setting as the locusts they resemble will.

How long have they been there? Bobby's all grown up

Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 15, 2024, 04:31:00 PMIf it keeps them away from Dark Sun, Mystara, and Birthright they can go ahead and devour the hell out of this setting as the locusts they resemble will.

There was a time when I thought Wokies of the Coast would never touch Dark Sun, that the setting was just too inherently edgy, and they couldn't possibly sanitize it without changing it so much it'd be unrecognizable and would lose all of its marketable appeal.

Now I realize that isn't how the Wokies think. They don't care about theme; they don't care about faithfulness, and increasingly, they don't even care about marketability. The current left would look at wokifying Dark Sun as all the more rewarding for how thoroughly they'd have to ruin it. The biggest of all trophies to hang on their wall.

At this point, I fully expect Woke Dark Sun to be something the world will be forced to endure within the next 5 years.

I mean, one of their public facing employees publicaly stated that Dark Sun was too problematic, and their spelljammer maps had a section in one of them called "Athas Space", with the implication (later rolled back) being that Dark Sun had been blasted to bits somehow, with the salvageable and marketable monsters hanging out in that section of the setting instead.

Now, that didn't enter their full canon like that, but you can tell they were considering it.  Consider how much hatred they must have for a huge setting like that, one of their most popular ever, being canonically obliterated, just because it had slavery that, while obviously evil and abhorent, wasn't a pile of anti-white bleating and George Floydisms.

But yea, I think they are more likely to destroy it in a different way; something like, have someone go back in time and rewrite history.  Maybe some other weird self-insert like the autistic paladin they decided made the deck of many things (or however it went).  That seems more likely than actually wiping out something so marketable, even for them.

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Quote from: THE_Leopold on May 15, 2024, 04:31:00 PMIf it keeps them away from Dark Sun, Mystara, and Birthright they can go ahead and devour the hell out of this setting as the locusts they resemble will.

There was a time when I thought Wokies of the Coast would never touch Dark Sun, that the setting was just too inherently edgy, and they couldn't possibly sanitize it without changing it so much it'd be unrecognizable and would lose all of its marketable appeal.

Now I realize that isn't how the Wokies think. They don't care about theme; they don't care about faithfulness, and increasingly, they don't even care about marketability. The current left would look at wokifying Dark Sun as all the more rewarding for how thoroughly they'd have to ruin it. The biggest of all trophies to hang on their wall.

At this point, I fully expect Woke Dark Sun to be something the world will be forced to endure within the next 5 years.

Its a game setting. The only ones forced to endure it are those foolish enough pay for it or play games using it. For the rest of the sane world it can be easily ignored.

The important thing is that Mordekainen can finally be zim/zir true authentic self as a disabled rainbow birthing elf of color and there is nothing you bigots can do about it!

Quote from: RNGm on May 15, 2024, 08:25:03 PMThe important thing is that Mordekainen can finally be zim/zir true authentic self as a disabled rainbow birthing elf of color and there is nothing you bigots can do about it!

I'm betting Mordenkaenen will be bi-sexual and one of the fucking assholes at WoTC will have him fucking one the characters that Gary's kids, watch.  WotC staff can't be bothered reading source material, they will most likely continue on with the crap that WotC did to Greyhawk with Iuz basically conquering too much land creating an imbalanced campaign world.  Its more of a war campaign with how WotC wrote it with armies marching everywhere.

Quote from: cavalier973 on May 15, 2024, 07:03:48 AMI thought the cartoon characters were officially in the Forgotten Realms. Have they moved to Greyhawk?

They have moved from Mystara to FR to who knows where a few times.

Quote from: jeff37923 on May 15, 2024, 11:52:50 AM$10 says that the Bandit Kingdoms will be considered too "problematic" and get axed.

I'd always assumed Greyhawk was too "problematic" for Wizards to begin with. I won't be surprised if the setting gets altered beyond recognition.

Considering how much they despise Gygax and co for being "White and Male"... The odds of them handling Greyhawk with nay respect approaches zero.

Quote from: Omega on May 17, 2024, 02:51:52 PMConsidering how much they despise Gygax and co for being "White and Male"... The odds of them handling Greyhawk with nay respect approaches zero.

Fair. But here is the thing, if it is done well then we can use the awesome stuff. If it is done poorly, it can be easily ignored. All real play settings must diverge from the cannon setting, anyway, because at some point the world events will be different or an area that the DM fleshed out will be done differently. So it is probably a net positive.

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Quote from: Omega on May 17, 2024, 02:51:52 PMConsidering how much they despise Gygax and co for being "White and Male"... The odds of them handling Greyhawk with nay respect approaches zero.

Fair. But here is the thing, if it is done well then we can use the awesome stuff. If it is done poorly, it can be easily ignored. All real play settings must diverge from the cannon setting, anyway, because at some point the world events will be different or an area that the DM fleshed out will be done differently. So it is probably a net positive.

That's not a bad take on it, but you won't find too many here that are willing to give it a fair chance. Even if it is good, they'll have to reject it to follow their narrative.