It's great that you feel you've got a real gotcha on your hands here, however we aren't talking a person who propositioned another adult, or touched a woman's arm and made her feel unconformable. This guy attacked multiple women, according to one he grabbed her and wrestled her head around to try to kiss her. It's unambiguous sexual assault with at least three victims known thus far:
https://twitter.com/RekItRaven/status/1557384295194533889
https://twitter.com/little_red_dot/status/1557466678161727489
https://twitter.com/Superdillin/status/1557394343811551232
So just maybe there isn't a double-standard in play between "asked a woman out in an elevator isn't a big deal" and "trying to wrestle women into making out in a bar in front of horrified onlookers is bad".
I don't think I have a real gotcha. I appreciate you finding these threads for me, I haven't started to do any sort of digging, but you've saved me a little bit of time in the search.
I am not making apologies for this abuser, what was done isn't up for debate. It happened, it was wrong, and I expect there to be longer term consequences. As someone said, "Let's check back in three months, six months, and a year."
Yep yep yep, most definitely.
FGG was lambasted on Social Media for this incident. Bill Webb had to walk around conventions with another employee just to make sure incidents if they did occur had a witness beside He said/She Said. The company took a huge hit and it wasn't until both sides posted online that this was a matter they both wanted to put in the past and the blood hungry blue checkmarks went after their next target.
As for this event. Reopen this thread in 3months, 6months, and right before GenCon next year and not a damn thing will have been done.
I agree totally. Let's check back, we will see if there's any outcome. But I'm willing to bet some amount of imaginary currency that more will happen in this case than did to FGG.
The story seems to have been that Mr. Webb had a history of drinking too much at conventions, and after several reported incidents, that one happened that made him apologize. He took a hit, but I don't think that FGG really did. (And I want to make it clear, I've chatted with Mr. Webb, and he's a congenial dude, when he talks about his games it makes you wish you were at the table where it all happened. Alcohol makes some people into idiots, and I hope he's got a better grip on things now.)
But I will say, for it being "he said, she said." Ms. Hensley wasn't the one who brought the incident to light. It was a third party who witnessed it... So it's beyond "He said, she said." It was "He said, she said, and the people at the bar who decided to intervene." And in a lot of cases, the apology of a drunken incident is going to have less accurate details than the multiple bystanders who felt it was an issue enough to step in and stop it.
Do I expect them to suffer long term for it? Nah, I'm pretty sure Mr. Webb felt the shame, and I imagine it was very unpleasant for him, but the company navigated the waters through that incident (and managed to avoid any damage from past events) and ... That's about it. Done is done.
And as far as facing long term consequences from the "blue checkmark mob." Steve Jackson Games is listed on the "red red red" list in the other thread, and they were pressured to cut ties with FGG and they declined to do so. In fact, a lot of the anti-woke folks were cheering for SJG for standing up for FGG. So obviously, things were more complicated than the simple "woke/anti-woke" axis that often gets used to decide who to cheer for.
Finally, I think it's important to note that Frog God Games made a point to approach BJ Hensley and the statement was made WITH her. This isn't a case where Mr. Webb apologized and a side was picked... They did make a point to talk to the victim. So, I'm pretty sure that may be part of the reason it went smoothly as it had.
https://www.froggodgames.com/joint-statement-of-bj-hensley-and-frog-god-games/